Rhino Records Doors LP Box Set Warning!

hearingimpared
hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
edited February 2009 in Music & Movies
I just received an email from another member with this link warning about the new Doors LP Box set and thought I'd pass it along.

http://messageboard.thedoors.com/showthread.php?t=20065

I'm checking mine out tonight.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    A thorough visual inspection revealed no issues with my set. I am going to treat each record and play them over the next couple of days to make sure there is no unseen damage to in the grooves.
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited May 2008
    Hey Joe, I would request a replacement no matter what; even if you can't find anything, why take a risk?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    On your advice Rico, I emailed Dr. Rhino and the elusivedisc.com as to what measures I need to take to get a proper replacement.

    Thanks Bro.
  • analog97
    analog97 Posts: 328
    edited May 2008
    Joe,

    I opened my Doors Box over the weekend. All appears well, but I really did not inspect it closely. I was bowled over by the sonics!! My impression so far is that it was masterfully engineered. Larry
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    Cool Larry. I have an email draft I'm going to be sending to you today.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited May 2008
    Joe,

    I would not treat the records, once you do they may be yours for good.

    RT1
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    Ted I wrote to both Rhino and elusivedisc.com and they have no problem with it. Besides, if I can't treat them they don't get played on my TT.

    Thanks for the suggestion though.
  • analog97
    analog97 Posts: 328
    edited May 2008
    Besides, if I can't treat them they don't get played on my TT.

    Joe,

    You are truly obsessed. There is no cure yet on the horizon for AMOD....analog madness obsessive disorder....:D:D Maybe that's a good thing.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    I don't want all the mold release compounds and factory grime getting all over my platter and stylus. The junk gets welded on and with the downforce of the Clamp it embeds in the delrin platter.

    So I'm obsessive . . . that's is truely no secret!:D
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited May 2008
    Complusive too.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    Not to mention goofy.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2008
    I think your just ****!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited May 2008
    Hey Joe,

    Four of my covers need to be replaced as they have marks from shipping. It would have been nice if they were individually wrapped so they didn't rub during shipping.

    I'm not sure if I will be playing mine until the new TT arrives.

    Let me know what you think of the sonic characteristics.

    JM
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    You got it John.
  • analog97
    analog97 Posts: 328
    edited May 2008
    I've listened critically to most of this box set now. Verdict: 6 Stars!!!!! The clarity and depth of this recording are incredible. I have long been a fan of Bernie Grundman's recording engineering genius. This is a must for auditioning on SDA's. :) Joe? Have you played Strange Days yet?
  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited May 2008
    Where would one go to buy this set???????
    2 Channel:
    Amp/Parasound Halo A23
    Pre/Carver C-1
    Tuner/Carver TX-11a
    CDP/Jolida JD 100A
    Turntable/AR XB-Shure V15 III
  • analog97
    analog97 Posts: 328
    edited May 2008
    I got mine from Acoustic Sounds, but Elusive Disc has them as well, but I think the supply is running out as they pressed only 12,500.:(:(
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    analog97 wrote: »
    I've listened critically to most of this box set now. Verdict: 6 Stars!!!!! The clarity and depth of this recording are incredible. I have long been a fan of Bernie Grundman's recording engineering genius. This is a must for auditioning on SDA's. :) Joe? Have you played Strange Days yet?

    Yes, I listened to it tonight. Although I felt the title track was recorded a bit too much on the hot side, the rest of the LP was breathtaking, especially, "When the Music's Over."

    I wasn't that impressed with the first album, "The Doors." Although I do realize how hard it is to make an image out of a master tape that has two instruments coming from one channel, two from the other, and then image the vocals in between. The first track sounded muddy but the rest was as you say, "incredible clarity and depth."
  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited May 2008
    I have the DCC Steve Hoffman gold CDs of the Doors first two albums and I was wondering if anyone here has compared them to the boxed set? The DCC cds are by far the best sounding cds I've heard of these two albums..any thoughts?

    Edit: Analog97 thanks for the heads up!
    2 Channel:
    Amp/Parasound Halo A23
    Pre/Carver C-1
    Tuner/Carver TX-11a
    CDP/Jolida JD 100A
    Turntable/AR XB-Shure V15 III
  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited May 2008
    Roy Munson wrote: »
    Where would one go to buy this set???????

    Amazon has the box set for a lower price than others.

    OK guys, after hearing your descriptions, I guess I will play these sooner rather than later. I might wait for the periphery ring clamp to arrive first so I can retrieve the most from the LPs.

    NOTE

    If you have the box set and don't have any problems, please look at the end of the first post in the linked thread. All purchasers of the box set can get a 45 of 'Light My Fire' sent to them IF you contact Rhino.

    Additionally, Rhino is making a limited edition 7-inch vinyl "Light My Fire" single (mono/stereo) which we will supply as a free gift to all purchasers of the Doors Box Set who contact Dr. Rhino or www.thedoors.com.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited May 2008
    Someone tell Dr. Rhino, when you complain about his vinyl problems, to put The Doors out on SACD. No warps, no groove damage, no rubbed covers, no pops or ticks and better sound to boot. :D
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Someone tell Dr. Rhino, when you complain about his vinyl problems, to put The Doors out on SACD. No warps, no groove damage, no rubbed covers, no pops or ticks and better sound to boot. :D

    Somehow,,sooner or later,,I knew that would pop out of the Guru.;):)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited May 2008
    Hey, I'm nothing if not consistent. Exactly what you need in your next President. :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Someone tell Dr. Rhino, when you complain about his vinyl problems, to put The Doors out on SACD. No warps, no groove damage, no rubbed covers, no pops or ticks and better sound to boot. :D

    With all the flaws, it still will sound better than anything digital . . . even SACD!:eek::eek::D:p
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    One word . . . WOW!!!

    This is one of the best re-engineering and mixing jobs I've ever heard on vinyl. I had goose-bumps running up and down.

    The seamless holographic – 3 dimensional sense of spaciousness was absolutely startling. We got the sense that we were on stage with them with Morrison 9’ in front of us, in the middle and each instrument could be picked out clearly in the sound field. The soundstage was huge and the depth perception was as much as the drummer being 7’ behind Morrison (16' from us) on most songs and slightly elevated.

    In "Not to Touch the Earth" the bass player started out his solo in the middle of the stage and then you can hear him move to the left to give way to Morrison.

    The "Unknown Soldier" was incredible. In the marching passage you could hear the firing squad parade start marching far to the left and march across the stage to slightly right of center and the soldiers spread out in front of you. When the rifles fired you could hear what sounded like five rifles going off from the left speaker to the right seamlessly.

    This is so far the best record of the first three. It is truely breathtaking even if you don't like The Doors, you'll appreciate the magnificant sonics.

    Man I can’t wait to get to the others. Can you imagine what “L A Woman” is going to sound like?
  • analog97
    analog97 Posts: 328
    edited May 2008
    Joe, you are correct on all counts. Stunning is a word I would use for this recording masterpiece. It's interesting to note that Bernie Grundman was the original recording engineer on "Waiting for the Sun". It stands to reason that better techniques available today by Bernie Grundman, when he re-did his original magnificent recording would result in another improvement. I went back to the original and played it for my comparison. Wowee! What a difference!! In addition to what you so accurately described is the addition of an extra bass octave the engineers deiscuss in the insert in the box. Oh, yeah... me thinks you will enjoy "LA Woman"!! :):)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited May 2008
    With all the flaws, it still will sound better than anything digital . . . even SACD!:eek::eek::D:p


    Flawed logic, my friend, flawed logic.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Flawed logic, my friend, flawed logic.

    Don't get me wrong, I love SACD too but it can never sound as natural as vinyl.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited May 2008
    We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,085
    edited May 2008
    fight! fight! fight!!

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