Ship To Canada? No Thanks

polkie4life

candyliquor35m wrote: »

I sent a western union MO to HI and they charged him $20 to cash it.

Thats weird???

I've done a few western union transactions and the only charge i've seen is when you transfer money. Their charges are steep, i did a $245usd trans and was charged an extra 40 bucks......

rskarvan

George Grand wrote: »

I don't use Paypal and that was big of you to offer. Thanks Michael. I didn't say I distrust the buyer. In fact, I think he is well-intentioned and may have stated so previously. I just dislike hassles/surprises.

Paypal is convenient, relatively inexpensive, and hassle-free. To not utilize this helpful service is just backwards.

hearingimpared

Sorry you are having so much trouble with the cunuks. I've sent and received several items to the Great White North and never had a problem.

gfong

Have you tried taking it to your US postal service outlet and not a bank as it is a POSTAL money order? It was not drawn as you say, on some Canadian bank, if it truely is a postal money order then it was drawn at a Post Office.

Here are some facts about POSTAL Money orders!

Money Orders made payable to individuals may be cashed at any post office without charge.
Canadian Money Orders of issuance in CDN or UK currency will maintain the current peach colour and have serial numbers beginning with “1”
Canadian Money Orders of issuance in US currency are pale green in colour with serial numbers beginning with “0”

I would suggest that you go to your local American post office and you should have no problems getting your money.
I hope this helps the situation. Good luck

On another note, I am curious as to why it is a "Canadian" problem or fault when it is clearly your lack of understanding on what or how a Postal money order works? Funny logic!

George Grand

Well , it's a Canadian type problem to me, cause if this check came from a US bank, or I guess was a US Postal Service money order, I wouldn't be having a problem. But it's from Canada so I'm having a problem.

It's finished and over anyhow. A business loss and a lesson.

ohskigod

hey George, gfong might have a point, is it the peach colored postal money order? I know the one I got to pay the guy in Canada for my deal was peach colored, which would tell me the post office will cash it, just bring ID.

worth a shot, worst they will say is no

only hole in his theory is my guy must have got me to do the peach money order for a reason, and might not have been able to cash the green one in Canada like you might not be able to cash the peach one here.

as I said, worth a shot. I'm kinda curious

George Grand

I have some more vinyl to ship from the PO. I'll give it a try, and also have an envelope made out to ship it back if need be.

You got a peach colored Canadian postal money order from OUR post office? Or you got one of those from a customer and the po cashed it?

ohskigod

got the peach colored from our post office. guy instructed me to do so.
it's specifically for Canada. this was a while ago but I know I got it at the post ofice and mailed it on the spot.

gfong

I hope you get it sorted out. It would be worth your while to at least call the USPS and ask them if they can cash it. Good luck.

janmike

This came from the USPS web site.

International Money Orders


370 Supplemental Services
371 International Money Orders
371.1 Description
371.11 General
International postal money order service is available to transfer funds to individuals or firms in countries that have entered into agreements with the United States Postal Service for the exchange of postal money orders. International postal money orders may be sent by First-Class Mail International or Express Mail International service.

371.12 Maximum Amount
The maximum amount for a single international postal money order is $700 unless noted otherwise in parentheses in Exhibit 371.2.

There is no limit on the number of money orders that may be sent to a payee during any time period. There is a limit on the total face value of money orders an individual customer may purchase on any one day (see DMM 503.14).

371.2 Availability
International postal money orders are exchanged with countries using the pink International Postal Money Order (Form MP1). Exhibit 371.2 lists the countries that accept this form. The maximum amount for a single postal money order is $700 unless noted otherwise in parentheses in Exhibit 371.2.

Exhibit 371.2

Countries Accepting the International Postal Money Order Form (MP1)



Albania

Anguilla

Antigua and Barbuda

Bahamas

Barbados1

Belize

Bolivia2

British Virgin Islands

Canada

Cape Verde2

Dominica
Dominican Republic2

Ecuador2

El Salvador ($500)

Grenada

Guinea2

Guyana ($500)

Honduras2

Jamaica3

Japan4

Mali2


Mexico2

Montserrat

Peru

St. Christopher (St. Kitts) and Nevis

St. Lucia

St. Vincent and the Grenadines

Sierra Leone2

Trinidad and Tobago3

(1) In Barbados the amount of the money due for payment will no longer be handwritten on Form MP1 (the form currently states “Amount To Be Written In Words”) but will be electronically applied.

(2) Bolivia, Cape Verde, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Guinea, Honduras, Mali, Mexico, and Sierra Leone will not issue money orders for payment in the United States.

(3) Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago will not issue money orders in U.S. dollars.

(4) In Japan the Form TFP1 money orders issued for payment in the United States must be shown in U.S. dollars preceded by the capital letters “USD.”


371.3 Fees
The fee for money orders payable in countries that accept Form MP1 is $3.85 per money order.

371.4 Processing Requirements
371.41 Form Required — International Postal Money Order (Form MP1)
Use the pink International Postal Money Order (Form MP1) for money orders payable to the countries listed in Exhibit 371.2. Follow the issuance procedures in DMM 503.14.

Note: For money orders payable in Canada the amount of the money order must be expressed in U.S. currency only. Issuing clerks must use the money order imprinter in the usual manner printing the amount received in U.S. currency.

371.42 Preparation by Purchaser
When Form MP1 is used to send funds the purchaser should complete the information requested on both the money order and the customer’s receipt. Follow the instructions for preparing domestic money orders in DMM 503.14 when using Form MP1.The Postal Service is not liable for money orders that are lost before the purchaser completes this information. Money orders may be made payable to the purchaser (either a person or a firm) or a payee by official title (e.g., Director of Publications Canada).

371.43 Preparation by Postal Service Employee
Follow the instructions for preparing domestic money orders in DMM 503.14 when issuing Form MP1.

371.5 Procedures for Cashing Money Orders Issued by Foreign Countries
371.51 Valid Postal Money Orders
Valid postal money orders issued by countries listed in Exhibit 371.2 will be paid in accordance with the procedures for cashing domestic money orders (see DMM 503.14). However no international money order will be paid after the expiration of the validity date on the money order.

371.52 Canadian Money Orders
Canadian money orders may be paid only if they are addressed to a payee within the United States and the amount is imprinted in United States currency.

371.53 Japanese Money Orders
Valid postal money orders issued by Japan on its Form TFP1 are cashed in accordance with DMM 503.14. Money orders must not be paid after the expiration of the validity date indicated on the money order. The amount to be paid is shown in United States dollars and must not have been altered.

371.6 Lost Reissued Money Orders
Report the facts concerning lost reissued money orders (e.g. an international money order sent to the United States by a foreign country and reissued on a domestic form to the payee in the United States) to:

INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER SECTION
ACCOUNTING SERVICE CTR
US POSTAL SERVICE
PO BOX 82414
ST LOUIS MO 63182–9421

371.7 Inquiries
371.71 Who May Receive Information
Postal Service employees must not disclose information concerning money order transactions to any person except the purchaser, the payee, the endorsee, or a duly authorized agent of one of these. The Office of Accounting Postal Service Headquarters may authorize other requests only when the request concerns a specific money order or a specific party to a money order transaction and when accompanied by a valid court order. Send requests to:

OFFICE OF ACCOUNTING
US POSTAL SERVICE
475 L’ENFANT PLZ SW
WASHINGTON DC 20260–5240

371.72 Inquiries Regarding Payment
371.721 Money Orders Issued on International Postal Money Order (Form MP1)
Use PS Form 6401 Money Order Inquiry in accordance with DMM 503.14 when filing inquiries or requests for replacement of an International Postal Money Order (Form MP1). Only the purchaser may file and receive payment. Replacement will not be made before 6 months after the date of issuance.

371.722 Reissued International Money Orders (89 Series)
Use PS Form 6401 Money Order Inquiry in accordance with DMM 503.14 when filing inquiries or requests for replacement of reissued international postal money orders. The U.S. payee may file and receive payment.

Fongolio

I am the guy that George sent the vinyl to and who sent George a perfectly negotiable "postal" money order in US funds. What I negated to tell George was that all he need do is take it to a US post office and he will receive every penny. Banks are always looking to make a buck (or twenty). I have done over 50 various purchases with US sellers (yahoo auctions, cigar sellers, ebay etc.) and have not once had a problem with the seller getting their money when the money order is taken to a US postal outlet. I just wish George had talked to me before passing judgement and condemning all business transactions with Canadian buyers. George...I have sent you a pm and you have my sincere apologies for the hassle. I will wire the money, send cash, direct bank deposit, whatever it takes to make this good if the post office doesn't honor it. I will also make a donation to the school in whatever amount you desire to make up for your grief.

Early B.

Fongolio wrote: »

I just wish George had talked to me before passing judgement and condemning all business transactions with Canadian buyers.

Well, what do you expect from a proto-typical hot-headed, blue-blooded, ex-military American who lives in New Jersey where car insurance costs more than the mortgage?

George Grand

Thanks EB. Weird character trait. If I'm fairly certain I'm about to take it in the shorts I make a stink about it.

No apologies necessary as long as this thing works as advertised. No extra tariff for grief, nothing like that. I just like to conduct business with no surprises. It was a pretty good surprise at my bank yesterday. Okay?

scootchu

I agree with some that Paypal, despite the extra charges is the way to go when shipping to Canada or Internationally. Very cut and dry, and makes the shipping a lot easier too when printing out the US Postal customs forms.

George Grand

Another person just made my Ignore List. That's five.

shack

George Grand wrote: »

Another person just made my Ignore List. That's five.

ONLY FIVE?!? You are much more tolerant than me!

George Grand

Two additions from this thread alone.

mrbigbluelight

Fongolio, I don't think George will be completely satisfied unless you send him a couple of tins of whale blubber .... wrapped in seal skins.


I guess that makes "three" from this thread.

michael_w

Nah, we need that stuff to keep warm in our igloos.

danger boy

we don't need to bad mouth the Canucks now because of one bad transaction money order going South.

dfranks

George Grand wrote: »

I got a postal money order for $53 US Dollars, probably drawn on some Canadian bank. My bank has to send it out to another bank. My bank will charge me $25, and the OTHER bank will charge me $25. I might see $3 out of this piece of crap. They said I MIGHT be able to get it cashed without fees at an international airport. Yippee. Nice waste of both my time, vinyl, AND money. Screw it, I'm sending this piece of paper back to Canada where it MIGHT be worth something.

Hey, be nice to your neighbours, up north...for one their money is worth the same or more than your US buck. ....

2 They are on top!

Just kidding with you. But seriousely why wouldn't you guys use paypal?

George Grand

Three in one thread!

jayman_1975

why are people getting ignored for mentioning p&y p%l. I didn't out right say it so please don't ignore me too.

It's too bad this happened cause there will be alot more Americans not wanting to deal with Canadians now. I just tried to purchase something in the FM awhile back and he wouldn't sell to me cause i'm Canadian. It's funny actually cause i was going to give him full price for it and later on i noticed he had to reduce his asking price...hahaha. Looks like he still hasn't sold it and that was back in March. Shame really cause i had to go buy one new and he had to take less than his asking price.

madmax

Paypal is awesome!
madmax

George Grand

I am going to become an ace on this thread alone.

Ricardo

You can't send smileys with paypal.

dfranks

George Grand wrote: »

Three in one thread!

poor lil puddin pie not gettin his own way huh?

That's what I tell my kids when they act like you are.

BTW how old are you ?

And can you get ignored twice?

mrbigbluelight

:rolleyes:Okay, I'm going to ..... just a second .... okay ...... I'm safe behind the blast shield now ........



EXCITING UPDATE: we just received our Paypal Security Key in the mail yesterday. My gawd ..... THE POWER !!!

That's right .... once again ..... be afraid ..... be very afraid !! :eek:

SKsolutions

"Are you the Gatekeeper"

shack

dfranks wrote: »

Just kidding with you. But seriousely why wouldn't you guys use paypal?

Paypal sucks! Feel free to ignore me as much as you like...