Ship To Canada? No Thanks
George Grand
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I will never ship goods to Canada again. I got paid with a piece of paper that I might as well wipe my **** with if I want any use out of it at all. I don't blame the individual. I blame me. Never ship to Canada.
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What happened exactly? I know its about the record thing, I read the canadian's posts and yours regarding that, but could you elaborate here?Update: Once again allowed on polk forums from work! New job yaaaay. Well sorta.
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George Grand wrote: »I will never ship goods to Canada again. I got paid with a piece of paper that I might as well wipe my **** with if I want any use out of it at all. I don't blame the individual. I blame me. Never ship to Canada.
Ditto. Nothing moves in or out of the US without a hassle, unless it's
"undocumented workers" or cheap Chinese crap."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I got a postal money order for $53 US Dollars, probably drawn on some Canadian bank. My bank has to send it out to another bank. My bank will charge me $25, and the OTHER bank will charge me $25. I might see $3 out of this piece of crap. They said I MIGHT be able to get it cashed without fees at an international airport. Yippee. Nice waste of both my time, vinyl, AND money. Screw it, I'm sending this piece of paper back to Canada where it MIGHT be worth something.
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Ya that is a **** boat. I guess the Amero will patch that up, hehe.Update: Once again allowed on polk forums from work! New job yaaaay. Well sorta.
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One time I got a MO like that from CA. My bank sent me a No-Pay notice on it. I assumed that meant it was bad. Turned out it just takes a few weeks before payment is received by the bank and available. Only the manager at the bank knew how it worked. Could it just be your bank not wanting to deal with it?
Oh yea, the bank manager showed me something on the MO that told me it was that kind but I can't remember now. They said not to worry about accepting them, just expect a delay and a no-pay notice each time. Sorry for not having all the info for you but it sounds like a higher up person might be able to help you at the bank.Vinyl, the final frontier...
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I won't ship anything of value internationally either unless the buyer knows I am not liable / responsible once it leaves the post office.
It takes time and effort to fill out the form, you can't do tracking to know when/if it'll reach the buyer, and it's pretty much a huge pain in the ****.
I've done it three times lately (all for inexpensive pieces) and none of them went smoothly.Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
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uh, hey George, that guy should have paid you with a US money order. he could have gotten one. He also should have know it given his position on shipping to Canada.
The buyer should make this right, period!
vice versa when I paid someone in Canada for something, I went to the post office and got a Canadian Money order.
you were more than clear that you were not aware of these things, hence being hesitant to ship to Canada. My personal reason for not shipping to Canada is delays due to them adding taxes on stuff that cross the border. I think it gets held up in customs on their endLiving Room 2 Channel -
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He should have gotten a US money order! That is what Willow paid me with when he bought the monoblock!
I had no problems cashing it. I just had to point out to the illiterate teller that is was in US dollars not Canadian!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
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I like Canadians, they're delicious.
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The only thing I told him was that I wanted a money order payable in US Dollars. It is in fact made out for $53 US Dollars, but it is not an INTERNATIONAL money order is what I was told. They would not accept it for deposit (without the fees thing), and they would not cash it. It is a Canadian Postal Money order or some such thing.
The individual could be the most well-intentioned guy out there, and probably is, but the fact remains, dealing with Canada obviously sucks when it comes to **** like this. I want to make a few donations. I shouldn't have to become a F*CKING INTERNATIONAL BANKING SPECIALIST TO DO IT!
The paper is going back where it came from. Maybe somebody can get it to work north of the border. There's no place to even endorse it. I can't even send it up to some Canadian hooker as advance romance or anything in case I get up that way someday (get up? HA!) -
I sent a western union MO to HI and they charged him $20 to cash it.
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George, I feel ya bud,
that said, the buyer should have known, especially given the incredulous way he handles your lack of willingness to ship to Canada in the first place. Sad thing is, the Canadian Post ofice should have international money orders, it wouldnt have even been an extra trip.
If he wanted you to ship to Canada that bad, he should have gotten the international money order, these things exist for a reason.
if you didnt want to ship to Canada, the guy should have left well enough, I;m not a big fan of nagging someone until someone does what he wants them to do, which is what he did to a degree.
if a Canadian doesnt want to ship to the US, then I aint making him do it, plain and simple. If i do, I am damn sure going to do the homework to make sure it goes smoothly
maybe I'm being hard on the guy, but he should ,ake good on tis, even if it means mailing the money order back and having him reissue to international.Living Room 2 Channel -
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It's definitely going back. I'll laugh my **** off if it beats the vinyl back to Canada. Naturally I shipped his stuff as soon as the money order arrived. Another dumb maneuver.
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I had a more successful transaction with Wangotango than you have had with our neighbors to the North.
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I understand your complete disdain for PayPal, but in this one instance all this would have been avoided by using PayPal. I'm sure if both parties knew ahead of time about the hassle you now face the deal would have been kaput then.
Banks are evil and it's just another way to generate income by **** both parties. I used to be in banking for 15 years.
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Screw Paypal.
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George Grand wrote: »It's definitely going back. I'll laugh my **** off if it beats the vinyl back to Canada.
prepare to chuckle, it will beat the vinyl. I'd be shocked if it didnt..LOL :rolleyes:Living Room 2 Channel -
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If you don't trust the buyer and are bitter you can mail it to me and I'll cash it then paypal you the money (I know, I know, you just said screw paypal). Sounds like you won't take the offer but it's an open offer if you want to take it.
Just saw the tag for the thread. That's hilarious
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I don't use Paypal and that was big of you to offer. Thanks Michael. I didn't say I distrust the buyer. In fact, I think he is well-intentioned and may have stated so previously. I just dislike hassles/surprises.
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I read that, yes. I was just thinking if you wanted a surprise-free way out of the mess there's another option rather than having it shipped back and another MO sent (they also cost about $7 to purchase). I know first hand of the bitterness and bad taste that gets left behind from a deal that doesn't go smoothly, whether it be $5 or $5000.
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Anyone if there F*C&J%G right mind would know that you would go to a bank and get an international MO. Common Sense. I have purchased and sold many things to folks in the USA and if Paypal is not an option then I go to a bank. DAH - Here's your sign. If I received a Postal Money Order from the USA I would laugh as well. It's worth ZIP.
Speaking of ZIP, I go into a USA bank to cash an AMERICAN travellers check in USA funds and they finger print me. HELLO - talk about high crime.
Don't blame the country George - it's the stupidy of the buyer. Canadian banks deal with USA banks all the time. Hell, I can have an account just for USA funds if I want.
Send it to michael_w or to me and one of us will help you with this BS.Michael
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I actually didn't know about the different kinds of money orders until today either. I have always just gone to my bank and they ask me where it's going and then sell me what I need accordingly and I'm about 5 for 5 to the good. From now on I'll definitely have to be double checking that I'm buying the right type of MO
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Just saw the tag for the thread. That's hilarious
I just noticed that today, I'm assuming it's new? What is it?Wristwatch--->Crisco -
Not sure. I think it has something to do with making searches easier and labeling specific threads for yourself?
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I don't see the big deal. The buyer had good intentions, but made a mistake. If you yourself feels this warrants no more dealings with Canadians, good for you.
I have sent many MO to the US with no issues what so ever. This has nothing to do with dealing with Canadians. He simply requested the wrong type of cheque.
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George Grand wrote: »Screw Paypal.
Doro, I talked to Jesse the other night for awhile. I heard about the vacation. It took 20 minutes of hard laughing to realize how bad I felt for you.
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