BUYER BEWARE: "Whatever" - from Ohio

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  • Whateverer
    Whateverer Posts: 57
    edited April 2008
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,839
    edited April 2008
    Agreed.
    Sal Palooza
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2008
    If this doesn't happen in like oh three minutes I think its safe to say we have a loser among us!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited April 2008
    Agreed.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Whateverer
    Whateverer Posts: 57
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited April 2008
    This is $40 I really need right now and don't feel totally responsible for but if it will make things right and you happy.

    How is it not your responsibility? Aren't you the one that packaged them poorly? Wow...
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  • Whateverer
    Whateverer Posts: 57
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2008
    I've shipped dozens of Polk drivers with only 1 issue, 4 years ago. It happens en route I guess but packaging is usually to blame. Some older members might recall that debacle with our loser from Canada.
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  • Whateverer
    Whateverer Posts: 57
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2008
    Yes. It's the voice coil/pole piece being siezed against the driver magnet.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited April 2008
    The point, which seems to continually escape your grasp, is that you, as the seller, are responsible for making the buyer whole, period.

    In simple terms that means that you refund the money right away after being informed of the damage and then you, as the seller, deal with the shipping company to try to reclaim the money. And no, it doesn't matter if it was packed well or not, the responsibility to make things right with the buyer rests entirely on your shoulders, period.

    There is no excuse, short of incarceration or death, for your dragging this on for 3 or 4 months. That's just ridiculous!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited April 2008
    What about that do you fail to grasp?

    Make it right. Right now, not later. [I realize you have issued a refund] How 'bout an apology?
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  • Whateverer
    Whateverer Posts: 57
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited April 2008
    Whateverer wrote: »
    I'm trying to make it right but with all the idiots going on saying things that I already addressed is getting to be to much. I don't know if a lot of you guys just don't read before posting or just want to be a pain.

    All the comments about giving a refund AFTER I has said I would where just stupid.

    I'm just disgusted with how people around here act when trying to fix things. IE the comments and BS AFTER I said I would give him a refund.

    I wouldn't be surprised if someone around here said to give him a refund even after this post.

    Too funny.

    If you thought your ship was sinking before your above post, think again. You just blew yourself out of the water. :rolleyes:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited April 2008
    All,

    I have received a refund ($40 sans paypal's share, but it's ok).

    Whateverer did apologize, and apology is accepted.

    I sincerely thank you all for supporting me in this case.

    Whateverer, I am honestly not sure whether I'd receive my refund if I hadn't made this whole deal public and you didn't have a peer pressure of Club Polk forum members.
    Of course, you acted fast and open, but that happened after this thread was open and blown out of the water with comments. Until then, I haven't had any indication from you (and pm's are my proof) that you'd ever accept the fault and refund the money.

    People on the forums like this are more or less closely knit community, who believe in honest transactions with other forum members. Over the last couple of years I've been on this forum I have seen several cases where forum members fixed the situation like this - no questions asked - even with new members.

    I do understand that I am/was taking a risk dealing with members with low post count, but I do believe in honesty (and what the heck - my post count is not that high either).

    Thanks again all for your support.

    E.T.

    Whateverer wrote: »
    All the comments about giving a refund AFTER I has said I would where just stupid.

    I'm just disgusted with how people around here act when trying to fix things. IE the comments and BS AFTER I said I would give him a refund.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2008
    Glad things worked out Viper.
    Michael ;)
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2008
    Whatneverer has a long uphill road to climb if he actually thinks or wants to be respected around here again.

    I think that the title still rings true: Buyer Beware!!!
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited April 2008
    I find it funny that everyone says dont forget to add the paypal fee's and he still only sends $40. Some people never learn.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited April 2008
    BaggedLancer wrote: »
    I find it funny that everyone says dont forget to add the paypal fee's and he still only sends $40. Some people never learn.

    Probably figured the extra $1.20 wouldn't change anyone's opinion of him or the transaction at this point....
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2008
    he is cheap. paypal sucks.

    RT1
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2008
    I have to say you are indeed full of excuses.
    The original transaction was posted on 12/27, sold and paid on 12/28, and shipped on 12/29. You seemed to have the required skills to accomplish your mission of a sale then, and enough to sell and ship in a total of 3 days. Yet it took you what, about 4 months to rectify? As mentioned many times in the posts above, you should have found another way to come up with $40 net refund and been done with it. Address getting your money back on you're own.

    How would you feel if you went to a local store and bought something, found that it was defective or broken when you got it home, and brought it back tot eh store to return it, and they said you would get your refund after they dealth with the manufacturer and got thier money back from them first? You would have expected them to deal with thqat on thier own, and refund your money right there. You also wouldn't expect them to provide you any excuses for any delays, such as they can't find the manufacturers mailing address to send it back to them, or that things sometimes break-or that its really not thier responsibility----the excusesit would be of no concern to you-you just want to get your money back and be done with it. I don't want to hear an excuse that store's have the extra money to handle that kind of return-you shouldn't have spent the money you recieved as payment until you were sure the buyer was satisfied.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,085
    edited April 2008
    What a dickbump.

    Three months to refund 40 bucks?? No excuse.

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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited April 2008
    No interest accrued? Damn... Got charged 3% on top of waiting 4 months, you literally got hosed. Whatever'er:rolleyes:
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2008
    It's a shame that it had to come to this for the right thing to be done.

    I think when it is this blatant, the offending seller should be permanantly banned from the flea market!

    Is that possible to do?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited April 2008
    Don't worry... He's banned under that user name. If he comes back with another, we all know his name and he's from Ohio.
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,860
    edited April 2008
    obieone wrote: »
    Wow! I hope this doesn't turn out like 'Pirate 4x4':D

    :D but thats a fun place to post
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2008
    cfrizz wrote: »
    It's a shame that it had to come to this for the right thing to be done.

    I think when it is this blatant, the offending seller should be permanantly banned from the flea market!

    Is that possible to do?

    This should be just as good.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=83102
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