nitrogen in car tires for better gas mileage ?

heiney9

tonyb wrote: »

Man,this is worse than a cable debate.

Wait until I bring up Cables injected with Nitrogen and how they sound compared to regular Cables :)

H9

sucks2beme

Nitrogen and air. The difference is hot air keeps going and going.........

dkg999

heiney9 wrote: »

Wait until I bring up Cables injected with Nitrogen and how they sound compared to regular Cables :)

H9

But then you would be saying ............... "CABLES MAKE A DIFFERENCE"!

(the sound you hear is the door to my hiding place slamming shut!)

heiney9

bobman1235 wrote: »

His facts were also directly contradictory to 95% of Ron's earlier post. Figure that one out.

LOL-:D. I wasn't busting on Agfrost just Ron's response to what Agfrost posted. Ron doesn't even realize he was contradicted. LOL

heiney9

dkg999 wrote: »

But then you would be saying ............... "CABLES MAKE A DIFFERENCE"!

(the sound you hear is the door to my hiding place slamming shut!)

They do, every rational audiophile knows that!! :D

dkg999

heiney9 wrote: »

They do, every rational audiophile knows that!! :D

Now just where are you going to find a rational audiophile? Is that what an audiophile becomes when they're dead :eek:

rskarvan

heiney9 wrote: »

LOL-:D. I wasn't busting on Agfrost just Ron's response to what Agfrost posted. Ron doesn't even realize he was contradicted. LOL

I don't think I was contradicted. Agfrost simply added to the analysis. He agreed that there may be something to the reactivity with oxygen. But, he said its more likely to impact the rim than the tire.

cmy330go

Consumer Reports study regarding rate of pressure loss.

dkg999

cmy330go wrote: »

Consumer Reports study regarding rate of pressure loss.

There you go wanting to try to introduce facts into one of our debates :rolleyes:

tonyb

Lets sum all this up.....

WHO GIVES A FLYING F$#K!!!!

dkg999

tonyb wrote: »

Lets sum all this up.....

WHO GIVES A FLYING F$#K!!!!

I can care about Flying F$#K's! 34,000 feet, a little light chop, a good looking woman spread eagle in the lavatory .............. but I digress

cmy330go

dkg999 wrote: »

There you go wanting to try to introduce facts into one of our debates :rolleyes:

Sorry. Moment of weakness.

dkg999 wrote: »

I can care about Flying F$#K's! 34,000 feet, a little light chop, a good looking woman spread eagle in the lavatory .............. but I digress

Wow....You paint quite a picture.:eek:

tonyb

Farmers are like that.:D

dcmeigs

Let's see. Air is Nitrogen and Oxygen and water and not much else. Mole wt of N2 is 28 and Oxy mole wt is 16. So O2 is smaller. So let's just say, for arguments sake that, the tire could cause a separation of n2 and o2; the o2 gets away. You keep filling your tires up with a little air and before you know it it's mostly nitrogen and the leakage should stop. Has anyone had this experience? I didn't think so.

Nitrogen is manufactured by distilling it from air. In the process the water is also separated out. The nitrogen is "bone dry" (I'm serious, that really is the engineering term, even on April 2). If you live in the frozen north country and use N2, you won't have a big chunk of ice- from the condensed water- in the bottom of your tire when you set out in the morning. That out of balance tire can be a pain, in aircraft tires too. That's the benefit. Not to exciting eh?

Joe08867

The only issue I have with the consumer reports test is they only got the tires to 95% Nitrogen. In my mind that would probably be were most of the lost PSI's come from.

Just using normal math 30 psi minus 5% is 1.5 psi. They ended up with a 2.2 psi. so really isn't the loss more like 2.5 percent of the nitrogen. Compared to about 12% for regular oxygen filled tire.

rskarvan

Consumer reports rates Nitrogen molecules that are Manufactured in Japan as being 34% less prone to leaking than domestically produced Nitrogen molecules.

tonyb

See post #71 Ron...