Speaker wire and component selection
Hi,
I already have 2 sets of RC80i for the bedroom and kitchen and plan on getting a pair of Atrium 55 for the deck. Then I'm getting the RM95 pack (with 2 extra sats to make it 7.1) for the living room. My plan is to run all this from an Onkyo 605 with the RM95 set being the prime set with the other 3 sets being "zone 2". I have also already got some 12 gauge Monoprice wire due to the long runs I have. I also plan on getting a speaker selector with volume controls for the bedroom, kitchen and deck speakers (zone 2). BUT I can't find a selector with volume that will take 12 gauge wire! Any ideas? Also before I buy all the other speakers and receiver, is there any issues with these speakers and receiver and 12 gauge wire that I should be aware of?
Thanks guys.
I already have 2 sets of RC80i for the bedroom and kitchen and plan on getting a pair of Atrium 55 for the deck. Then I'm getting the RM95 pack (with 2 extra sats to make it 7.1) for the living room. My plan is to run all this from an Onkyo 605 with the RM95 set being the prime set with the other 3 sets being "zone 2". I have also already got some 12 gauge Monoprice wire due to the long runs I have. I also plan on getting a speaker selector with volume controls for the bedroom, kitchen and deck speakers (zone 2). BUT I can't find a selector with volume that will take 12 gauge wire! Any ideas? Also before I buy all the other speakers and receiver, is there any issues with these speakers and receiver and 12 gauge wire that I should be aware of?
Thanks guys.
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Personally I wouldn't want a volumn control between the amp and speakers. Not an expert by any means, but I would think that would cause some problems. To connect 12 ga to a smaller binding post, use a pin connector. Monster makes some that you insert the wire into the back, tighten a set screw, and you're good to go. They also make flexible pin connectors. Soldered spade connectors would be better if your switch will accept them.
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Thanks for the help guys.
I had emailed a few of the different manufacturers about why they are all 14 gauge. Anyway Niles Audio replied and there SSVC-4 and 6 both take 12 gauge. I felt like an idiot as I had looked at those BUT in my defense it appears that Crutchfield has incorrectly put max 14 gauge in the description of these products. The Niles website does say 12 gauge. Now I'm just reeling from the price of these on the face of it simple devices. $300 wow. Anyway it's got to be done.
Now my only issue is their manual says "Important: DO NOT use the SSVC series with amps or receivers
rated at more than 100 watts per channel RMS at 8 ohms." Is this a problem with the Onkyo 605?
The Phoenix Gold people emailed and say that although their manual says 14 gauge, they have managed to get 12 gauge in there and there's no technical reason why you can't use 12 gauge in their VSS4. So my question is why is their selector $150 and the Niles $300?
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Unless your runs are extremely long, 14 guage is all you need. I have ran 14 guage cl3 inwall approved(which you need to use for zone 2) works great. Hell I have ran 16g all over the place and it works great 2.
Niles products suck if yoou have 12 g. Good luck with that. It's a very tight fit and if you put volume controls in the rooms, 12g will not fit. I don't care what Niles say, I have Installed there products, all of them for over 8 years and even 14 guage is tight. 16 guage works the best.
Again you should use Cl3 inwall rated wire.Dan
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Well I finally got the Niles SSVC-4. I have just hooked it up and it works great. I was worried because of using 12 gauge wire and the previous post, but frankly it works fine with 12 gauge. Tight maybe but it's obviously designed (as they said) to take 12 gauge. Actually it works easier with 12 gauge than my old Pioneer amp that's supplying it.