Windows Vista SP1

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Polkmaniac wrote: »

Of course you are, and you're always going to have that with ANY OS.

Going from XP to Vista is a change, and like any other change alot of people don'ty typically adapt well to it at first. What complicates things a bit more here is that XP is generally considered to be the best OS that MS had made up to that point, and remained on the market for so long.

IIRC, XP came out in 2001, so people have been using it for 6 years, which is unheard of for an OS lifespan. You combine that with the fact that it's actually a very good OS, and then ask people to upgrade to Vista where things can look and feel a little different and something are in 'the wrong place'....

Of course you're gonna have some folks who want to revert back to XP. Hell, when XP came out and I first used it I reverted back to Windows 98 for a while...

All the eye candy and such aside, Vista IS a better OS than XP, but just like when XP first came out it's going to take them some time to get it up to full potential.

It's certainly not the next ME, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen so far, except for maybe the one guy complaining about how it won't run on 256 MB RAM - gimme a frikkin break....

Well said Maniac! I hated XP when I jumped from Win 2000 Pro. It took me a while to get used to it and to find stuff. Same thing with Vista.

If you find it to be slow, look at how much RAM you have. RAM is cheap these days, just go to Newegg. Have atleast 2gb on board. I don't care what MS says, get 2gb or maybe try the Readyboost method (that I posted). Turn off the flashy GUI per the instructions I posted.

I guarantee, when MS comes out with the next OS, people will defend the **** out of Vista and say a new one is not needed.

jmwest1970

The previous three posts are dead on. Another issue that people are complaining about is the attempt by Microsoft to create a more secure OS. Did they? Hell no! But there's not an OS out there that's secure out of the box. Some are more secure than others, but what I said still stands. I had this arguement with my boss Friday and he says he's ready to replace Windows with Linux on the desktops. I had to remind him that the apps our hospital uses won't run natively on Linux and the vendors won't support them with an emulator. The same goes for Macs. Not to mention the Office replacements that I've seen on Linux all rely on java and I'm not ready to add "the java minute" to the load time of apps we use. We have contemplated the move to Citrix which would eliminate the OS requirement. If we did that we could go almost completely thin client and the few desktops and laptops we would keep could run whatever we wanted to hear the users complain about.

All that said, I'm the only one of 600 computers using Vista. The rest are XP until they die and we still order XP with new computers. Our vendors don't support Vista, therefore we can't move to it. I run all the same apps on Vista and they work fine, but we're at their mercy for support.

Back to the topic...I haven't installed SP1 yet. I may try it today, but I haven't taken the time to see what it's supposed to fix that I use.

polksda

Ok, so persuade me.

I have yet to see anyone claim that a given system will run faster under Vista than XP, so presumably the reasons to upgrade aren't based on performance.

Without pointing me to some long white paper or geek article, what exactly will "upgrading" to Vista allow me to do that I cannot currently do under XP Pro? And I don't mean cutesy animations or visual bells and whistles.

danger boy

to me and i'm not a techy type guy.. Vista isn't that much different looking than XP to me. I mean some of the menu's are different and cutesy, but not much more to the untrained user.

I did not upgrade my laptop, it came with Vista loaded already. My two desktops are both using XP, and we NOT ever go Vista. (basically they are to old for it, not enough RAM).

I just don't see any benefit to go with Vista if you are satisfied with XP.

I will try and uninstall SP1 on my laptop from the advice I have been given her. It's got 2 gig RAM, which was just fine before the SP1 install. now it's not. I could look into more memory, but i think it's pricey for a laptop.

Laptops only have two memory slots right? so If right now I have two 1 gig RAM memory.. to bump it up. i'd need two 2 gig RAM right? Dang skippy. that could get expensive. :eek:

obieone

I'm hunting snipes on my new custom pc. Friggin drivers for Crysis keep knocking **** out- Ethernet or audio. I got this thing home last night after installing at the shop I built it at, installed SP1 for Vista 64, and can't get Crysis to load without HAVING to get a 'stand alone' driver for it. When I do that, I lose audio. the game, loads and starts, but video only! GRRRRR.

petrym

For all you Vista haters, be aware that Micro$oft is going to stop selling "Direct OEM and Retail License Availability" versions of Win XP on 30 June 2008, yes, in two months. System Builder License Availability will continue until 31 Jan 09. :mad:

danger boy

that's no biggie.. as long as I already have my computers running XP just fine. i'm good for a while. maybe in a year or two. Vista will be more user friendly.. and I can replace my two XP PC's by then.

[Deleted User]

I have no comment. I like mac's, other like windows. All I can say, based on my experience, there will be more SP's. Nothing controversial, nothing is perfect. But the entity that created everything.

avelanchefan

I have Xp on my main computer, and my wife bought a laptop with vista on it. I have never seen such a resource hog in my entire computer life. Laptop is a Intel Duo Core 1.80ghz with 2gb Ram, Vista was incredibly slow, it took at least4-5 minutes to load from start up, and all programs that ran were incredibly sluggish. (I only had 4 programs running in the startup bar) Switched back to XP after wiping the disk clean, and my wife has never been happier. So running XP on 2gb or Ram was useless, and I had the processing power to do it easily (according to M$).

XP all the way for me until they force me to switch.

Ackaroth

I've got Vista on my HP laptop, c2d 1.5ghz, 2gb ram, 250gb hdd, 8600M GS, and it runs ok, but not anything to write home about. I have been debating installing sp1, I may wait a bit longer. Laptop generally makes me want to build a new desktop (I can't, I'm broke) and will definitly be installing xp on it. I'm a gamer, and Vista just isn't where its at, even if you do have a crapload of ram.

shadowofnight

danger boy wrote: »

It's got 2 gig RAM, which was just fine before the SP1 install. now it's not. I could look into more memory, but i think it's pricey for a laptop.

Laptops only have two memory slots right? so If right now I have two 1 gig RAM memory.. to bump it up. i'd need two 2 gig RAM right? Dang skippy. that could get expensive. :eek:

They are giving away ddr2 for laptops right now....it is ridiculously cheap at the moment .

4GB ( 2x2GB ) of ddr2 667 ( PC2 5300 ) about the most common right now....is only 67 bucks at Newegg.

zingo

I installed Vista SP1 on my desktop a few weeks ago and have had no problems with it. I've been playing games and using other applications and haven't have performance issues. I don't know if I should consider myself lucky or what...

obieone

shadowofnight wrote: »

They are giving away ddr2 for laptops right now....it is ridiculously cheap at the moment .

4GB ( 2x2GB ) of ddr2 667 ( PC2 5300 ) about the most common right now....is only 67 bucks at Newegg.

I've got a toshiba satellite a135 laptop. System properties only tells me how much ram(2GB), not what kind? Where do I look?