Windows Vista SP1

danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited May 2008 in The Clubhouse
I am installing Win Vista SP1 right now. It's going fine.. but I am reading all over the net that it has slowed down response time in notebooks. This isn't the way it's suppose to work right?

I hope it behaves nicely with my laptop

anyone install it yet? Any noticeable affects?
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,623
    edited March 2008
    Let us know how it goes. I'm running Vista on my laptop but haven't installed SP1 yet.
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  • jeremie
    jeremie Posts: 246
    edited March 2008
    i put vista sp1 on my notebook last night and have seen little to no issues. it did blue screen once after the install but seems to be ok now. i have an intel 2.5ghz with 3gb of ram so i am not sure if i would notice slowdown.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2008
    I will be watching this one. When XP ser pac 1 first came out it had issues. I'll wait. things are running pretty smooth for now.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited March 2008
    I had an early beta installed on my PC at work, and it didn't break anything. I downloaded the release of SP1, but didn't have time to install it yet.

    Also, I saw that Windows XP sp3 Release Candidate 2 is out for public download. I installed that on my laptop and had no issues thus far.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2008
    Ive read at different places that Vista is having all kinds of problems and that a lot of people are even re-installing XP!! My compy is 6 years old and having trouble with a lot of these new websites that are heavy on the flash animation so Im thinking I may be in the market for an upgrade soon but if Vista is crappy I think Ill wait or maybe even get a Mac.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited March 2008
    Dammit!!! I've got automatic updates on my laptop, and I don't know IF I downloaded it or not. My laptop does seem to be running a bit slower than normal, and getting my webmail takes FOREVER!
    I guess I have to go to Updates & check my history.
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  • swegyptian
    swegyptian Posts: 316
    edited March 2008
    Can everyone get the SP1 update for Vista now? I couldn't find it on the site.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2008
    swegyptian wrote: »
    Can everyone get the SP1 update for Vista now? I couldn't find it on the site.

    just run Windows update.. and it will identify it and ask you if you want to download it.. say yeah.. and it'll start. :D


    So far I haven't noticed anything good or bad with SP1 :D
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Vista = Windows ME

    Nothing could be as bad as Win ME that POS sucked it hard. :mad:
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited March 2008
    Vista is the new ME, I agree. On a notebook, it's complete crap. On a notebook that you want to use on battery power, it's unusable. . . if you know how to uninstall.

    XP SP3 is very quick, I idle a 0-1% CPU most of the time. SP3 cleaned up all the fixes and patches. Vista 3-18% CPU on the same machine.
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  • nms
    nms Posts: 671
    edited March 2008
    Macleod,

    Have you ever re-installed XP on your computer? If not, I would recommend it - it's like getting a new computer - it will be faster, more stable, and free up a lot of hard drive space.

    The re-install goes very smoothly if you make a list of all your installed programs beforehand, any drivers you'll need, and back up anything you want (My Docs, etc) off the HDD before re-installing.

    SK,

    I've heard SP3 is not quite stable yet, but glad to hear it makes things better for you. XP is a stable, mature OS - it took about 3 years to get stable, so maybe Vista will be the same way. But Vista sucks hard.
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  • polksda
    polksda Posts: 716
    edited March 2008
    Vista is an abortion. Sure, it has more eye candy than XP, and it certainly has more intellectual property rights enforcement (I'll leave it up to others as to whether that is good thing or a bad thing), but it's the worst sort of bloatware and an incredible resource hog.

    There were so many complaints after Microsoft phased out XP (for about a month or so, you could not configure any computers at Dell, gateway, HP, etc. with XP any more, only Vista), that in an unprecedented move, they brought back XP and delayed phase-out of the OS.

    As well they should. Vista simply is not viable for ultralights, UMPCs, etc. It's like putting a hood scoupe and spoiler on a 1979 Chevy Chevette... sure you can do it, but why the hell would you ever want to?

    Furthermore, the install footprint of Vista is horrendously huge.

    The department I work for is staying away from Vista for the foreseeable future, as am I personally.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2008
    If your computer has the balls to run it, Vista runs just fine and has quite a few advantages over XP.
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  • swegyptian
    swegyptian Posts: 316
    edited March 2008
    danger boy wrote: »
    just run Windows update.. and it will identify it and ask you if you want to download it.. say yeah.. and it'll start. :D


    So far I haven't noticed anything good or bad with SP1 :D

    The only SP1 update in there is for Office 2007. When I installed that one it effs something up so that you either have to type in your email password no matter what when you open outlook, or have to reconfigure outllook entirely. I say eff that. But there isn't a anything SP1 under Vista.

    When was SP1 released?
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  • nms
    nms Posts: 671
    edited March 2008
    Sure, it has more eye candy than XP, and it certainly has more intellectual property rights enforcement (I'll leave it up to others as to whether that is good thing or a bad thing),

    BAD THING!! BAD THING! :D

    XP can run on very low spec machines (P2 128 mb of ram). It's not happy about it, but it'll run.

    And it's actually faster than 98 - I installed both on the same machine for a while (don't ask - long story) and XP booted and ran faster than 98.

    There's a reason XP is the longest-lived MS OS (outside of DOS, lol) - they finally got it right, or at least close to right!

    PolkSDA, I'd run with your abortion analogy but it would be in really bad taste. I just hope MS realizes most people hate Vista and dumps it, but given how long they spent making it I kinda doubt that'll happen.

    Maybe if we all send them emails....
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2008
    I just don't get why everyone hates Vista so much. I've been running it a while on my primary gaming rig, and it doesn't slow things down a bit, has more functionality, and DX10 in games is nice.

    Sure it won't run on 128 MB of RAM, but jeezus doncha think it's time to upgrade!?? Get with the times people, get a machine with decent specs and Vista runs just fine, and has many improvements over XP. I'm tri-booting with XP, Ubuntu, and Vista right now and I find myself using the Vista install far more than either of the others...

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2008
    swegyptian wrote: »
    The only SP1 update in there is for Office 2007. When I installed that one it effs something up so that you either have to type in your email password no matter what when you open outlook, or have to reconfigure outllook entirely. I say eff that. But there isn't a anything SP1 under Vista.

    When was SP1 released?

    sorry then. that's what worked for me. i think there are a few things your version of Vista has to meet before it will download. I don't remember what they are or where I read it.

    it was released like on Tuesday the 18th of March 2008
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited March 2008
    I'm running Vista, no problems at all. Of course, my machine has the balls to run it.
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  • swegyptian
    swegyptian Posts: 316
    edited March 2008
    danger boy wrote: »
    sorry then. that's what worked for me. i think there are a few things your version of Vista has to meet before it will download. I don't remember what they are or where I read it.

    it was released like on Tuesday the 18th of March 2008

    Is yours 32 or 64 bit? Mine is 64. Maybe that matters?
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited March 2008
    Thanks to Vista I'll be looking to Apple for my next computer purchase.
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,623
    edited March 2008
    My duo core centrino with 2 GBs works just fine with Vista.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited March 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Vista = Windows ME

    2nd that.

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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited March 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    If your computer has the balls to run it, Vista runs just fine and has quite a few advantages over XP.

    MINE DOES AND SP1 DID NOT SLOW ME DOWN ANY
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited March 2008
    Our household is very happy with Vista
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    I updated last night, and it seems to be running fine without any problems.

    Haven't noticed any improvements or non-improvements.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2008
    ok. i've had this SP1 for Vista for a couple weeks now on my laptop.. it's slowed the **** out of it. web pages load up about three of four times as long now. Start up on the computer is deadly now.

    Things just hang and spin their wheels now. This has so far been the only after affect i've had since the install.

    Don't install it if you don't have to. I wish I never had. My nearly new laptop with hardly any programs and only 15% (of 250gig) of it's hard drive filled, may as well be a three year old laptop.

    There is no good reason to download and install this update.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited April 2008
    I've got no issues with SP1, runs just as well as before I installed it.

    You can always uninstall it. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited April 2008
    I installed the SP Friday on my laptop. I also bumped up the RAM to 4gb since I'll be running some Adobe programs like Photoshop and Illustrator.

    Here is a tip to speed up the performance of Vista. Go to START ->CONTROL PANEL ->SYSTEM -> ADVANCED SYSTEM SETTINGS. You'll be on the tab ADVANCED under system properties. Click SETTINGS under PERFORMANCE. Click the radio button for ADJUST FOR BEST PERFORMANCE.

    This will kill alot of the flashy GUI interface, but leave all of the important stuff intact. It'll go back to looking more like XP.

    Now, if you upgraded an older machine to Vista, there is a feature called READYBOOST. Insert a USB memory stick, a CF or SD card into a memory slot if available. When the system recognizes it, you'll have the option to allocate all or part of that memory on that device to Vista as memory. Vista will store non-critical things on there. Tests show Readyboost works well with older upgraded systems with lower amounts of onboard RAM. Newer machines with 2gb or more, very little to any difference was noticed. I'm going to test readyboost at some point, even though I have 4gb of RAM, when I start playing with Photoshop.

    Oh yeah, I like Vista. Nothing wrong at all here!

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited April 2008
    Of course you are, and you're always going to have that with ANY OS.

    Going from XP to Vista is a change, and like any other change alot of people don'ty typically adapt well to it at first. What complicates things a bit more here is that XP is generally considered to be the best OS that MS had made up to that point, and remained on the market for so long.

    IIRC, XP came out in 2001, so people have been using it for 6 years, which is unheard of for an OS lifespan. You combine that with the fact that it's actually a very good OS, and then ask people to upgrade to Vista where things can look and feel a little different and something are in 'the wrong place'....

    Of course you're gonna have some folks who want to revert back to XP. Hell, when XP came out and I first used it I reverted back to Windows 98 for a while...

    All the eye candy and such aside, Vista IS a better OS than XP, but just like when XP first came out it's going to take them some time to get it up to full potential.

    It's certainly not the next ME, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen so far, except for maybe the one guy complaining about how it won't run on 256 MB RAM - gimme a frikkin break....
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited April 2008
    Oh, and FWIW, I hate Microsoft with every once of energy that I have, but choose not to get that emotion mixed up in a subjective review of an OS - plus I'll always hate Apple more...
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