Favre to retire
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The funny thing about the Vikings rumors....The Vikings are basically the Packers right now without Favre.
Well, the Vikings would have a potential SB team w/ Favre (and arguably even w/o him), and he knows that. He only has a few more years and I'm sure that's one of the reasons he's trying for a release, he wants to win it all now and the best chance by far is with the Vikings. -
Demi, it's sort of like the Jordan/Krause thing in Chicago. Jerry Krause sort of disbanded the Bulls after the 6th championship. Krause always thought he was the reason they won all the championships in Chicago and he made the decision to move the team along, leaving Jordan, Pippen, Kerr, etc, to find other places to play or retire.
Sound like the Packers new GM is moving along the same fate. I think it's an absolute travesty what they are doing to Favre. He made the Packers what they are in the past decade or more and he should get a lot more respect from the organization than he's getting.
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I agree it's eerily similar.
If Favre SUCKED for the last 3 years I would say trade him. Yeah, he threw the pick that ended a season a possible play short of a Super Bowl. Without Favre we weren't even in that game.
It's frustrating, really. Ever since Holmgren left (not that he was any saving grace) this organization has done nothing to get Favre known weapons to win. Prior, we went out and got Reggie White. We went out and got Andre Rison (where was Moss last year?). He's developed how many no-name wide outs since he's been in the league? I can't even count.
This whole state will tell you stories of 30 years of sucking since Starr. The Bears can tell similar stories of their own franchise.
You just don't throw it away because your GM has an ego problem. -
Well, the Vikings would have a potential SB team w/ Favre (and arguably even w/o him), and he knows that. He only has a few more years and I'm sure that's one of the reasons he's trying for a release, he wants to win it all now and the best chance by far is with the Vikings.
The Packers are a better team than last year with Favre and we were within a Favre interception of the Super Bowl last year. It wasn't a fluke.
Everything written about the Packers since March was with the assumption Aaron Rodgers was the QB.
He's stated he wants to play in GB. The Packers aren't letting him and at first wanted him to play 2nd string or compete for the job. Then they backed off on both and now they're back to waffling again.
The organization looks like a bunch of buffoons and last weeks stunt was just icing on the cake. Never heard of paying a guy to stay home unless you were afraid of him kicking your **** up and down the field elsewhere. -
U agree that the organization may bear some blame, BUT THE GUY RETIRED! Why should they release him? So he can beat them by signing with another team. Why should they bench him? To pay him 20 million dollars (or whatever his salary is). When retired, only a small protion, if any, of his salary would count towards the cap.
Favre didn't HAVE to retire in May or June. He could have waited. He had the press conference, the farewell parade, the whole season was a farewell tour. It kind of devalued the whole thing. He, in my opinion, is accountable for the way that the organization has responded. They are trying to play hard ball with a legend - it's a lose, lose situation any way you cut it.
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You just don't throw it away because your GM has an ego problem.
One last thing about the Krause/Jordan/Jackson era. Krause was bound and determined to rebuild the Bulls (even thought they probably had another year or two left to compete with the current roster) and show the world it was HE who was responsible for the 6 Championships; not the players or coaches.
One wonders if the Packers new GM isn't doing the same thing. I am really starting to dislike professional sports as a whole because this **** goes on all the time now in the major sports. It has become less and less about the game and more and more about being in the headlines :mad:
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U agree that the organization may bear some blame, BUT THE GUY RETIRED!
BUT, BUT, BUT... he has the right to make a comeback anytime he wants to.Why should they release him? So he can beat them by signing with another team. Why should they bench him? To pay him 20 million dollars (or whatever his salary is).
It's their problem, not his. If they don't want him, let him play somewhere else. He obviously still wants to play and the Packers can't dictate whether he can or not. At least not without paying him his salary and we all know that's not going to happen. -
Both parties share some blame, but just saying the Pack should "release him" is ignorant. He signed a contract and they want their money's worth. He retired (and everyone crying that the Packers "forced" him out - Favre specifically said last year, before he retired, that they have been nothing but gracious and patient with him, so, either he lied then or now). If he wants back he has to honor his contract. Which means the Packers are in charge of where he goes - they can trade him, play him, or bench him. Releasing him would be literally giving up a 20 million dollar a year asset for NOTHING.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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bobman1235 wrote: »Both parties share some blame, but just saying the Pack should "release him" is ignorant. He signed a contract and they want their money's worth. He retired (and everyone crying that the Packers "forced" him out - Favre specifically said last year, before he retired, that they have been nothing but gracious and patient with him, so, either he lied then or now). If he wants back he has to honor his contract. Which means the Packers are in charge of where he goes - they can trade him, play him, or bench him. Releasing him would be literally giving up a 20 million dollar a year asset for NOTHING.
He's said year after year he's not ready to commit to football right after the season is over. Ted Thompson has been forcing Favre out the door. It wasn't an opinion last January and it's certainly not one now. This circus wouldn't exist if the Packers never really wanted Favre to retire. He was definitely putting on a media face. I wouldn't call it lying, I'd call it not being Terrell Owens.
The real crap being spewed is the "we've moved on," line. If Aaron Rodgers breaks his leg after the first play of the season (again
) they had better have another QB ready to go, be it Brahm or Flynn. The 2nd string QB always gets a lot of reps.
There are teams all over the league that bring in Vet QBs during the season even and have no problem running an effective scheme. -
bobman1235 wrote: »Both parties share some blame, but just saying the Pack should "release him" is ignorant.
If they don't start him, trading or releasing him is the only option. His trade value isn't all that, and the teams where he would report to are not in great numbers, so releasing is a very valid option. Just trade him to the Vikes for a 3rd or 4th and be done with it, if you're lucky you might even get a 2nd. They're going to whip the Packers anyways, with or w/o Favre, so it doesn't matter.bobman1235 wrote: »If he wants back he has to honor his contract.
Contract works both ways, they'll be on the hook for 13mil. Do they want to allocate that much of their cap towards a backup QB? Sure GB is in charge of deciding whether he plays, or where he plays, but in reality Favre has them by the cojones. TT knows that. -
haha, wow...this press conference. I would have loved to be a fly on that wall. Well, at least we know one thing. He'll either retire for good or get traded, I'm sure. Unless he can progress Mr. Bean up there to release him tonight.
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Sheesh! Talk about an eggshell ego! "They can't live without me!"I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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If they don't start him, trading or releasing him is the only option. His trade value isn't all that, and the teams where he would report to are not in great numbers, so releasing is a very valid option. Just trade him to the Vikes for a 3rd or 4th and be done with it, if you're lucky you might even get a 2nd. They're going to whip the Packers anyways, with or w/o Favre, so it doesn't matter.
My only real point is towards people who say the Packers "owe" it to Favre to release him because of the years he's put in, which is bull. Favre didn't volunteer his time, he's amassed a sizable fortune playing a game for a living. The Packers don't owe him squat. THe Packers owe it to their fans and selves to do what is in their own best interest, and that is it.
Don't get me wrong, I like Favre as a player, but he's not owed a damn thing.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
Sheesh! Talk about an eggshell ego! "They can't live without me!"
Where are you getting that from?
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I heard on the radio alittle while ago that a trade could be done today, Jets or BucsCasey
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Favre was the Packers for well over a decade. That franchise was sucking hind **** for 2 decades and then some, before he came into the picture. They would, most likely, be a cellar dweller still, if Favre wasn't on that team. He made others want to play in GB.
Don't get me wrong, both sides are at fault in there own ways, but they virtually forced him to give them an answer about retirement, when he wasn't quite ready to answer, so he relunctantly retired.
Piss poor management of the situation, PERIOD!!!"SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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He's a Jet now. :eek:
I'm personally glad it's over.
I don't know that it's going to work out for him, honestly. He's really stepping out of his own comfort zone. "Well, then why would you want him in Green Bay?"
The answer to that is simple. He's a better QB than Aaron Rodgers. Has chemistry with most of the team and knows the system.
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I wonder if the Jets fans are happier with Favre coming in or Pennington going out?
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As a Jets fan I am very happy about the trade. I think he will be a great assett to the team. Must go and order the jersey.
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WOW,
I guess whoever sold me his season ticket might be kicking himself in the arse right now....LOL
its a mixed bag.....Farve is not the future of the Jets, I think we all know that.
can he inject some life into the team, and his knowlege be used to groom whoever will follow in his position? YEP!
if the Jets kick a little **** in the process so be it, I'm hoping for a hell of a ride :DDLiving Room 2 Channel -
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