Shootin Guns in the House
nikolas812
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Anybody ever have a gun go off in the house?? Well.... We did the other day. Very scary stuff. My dad was checking to see if a 12 gauge shot gun was loaded. While checking it, it never spit out any shells so he figured it was empty and pulled the trigger. BANG!!!! There goes the refrigerator, microwave, and coffee pot all at the same time. Guess he should have looked inside the gun to see if a shell was in the chamber. Come to find out, the shot gun has a intermittent problem with chucking out the shells. He just forgot.... It will chuck one and then won't chuck another one without a few more pumps. Probably just needs to be cleaned. Any way it was a very scary moment and it is a good thing no one else was in there when it happened because buck shot went everywhere.
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I'm glad nobody was hurt.
Good thing you didn't have bird shot in there."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
We did. Isn't bird shot and buck shot the same thing??
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Yikes!
A friend of mine worked as a 911 operator. The building they worked out of was attached to the police station, and a lot of the guys who worked 911 were friends with the cops.
So one cop comes in shooting the **** with the 911 guys, puts his shotgun down on a table, and it "goes off" (I don't know the full story about why exactly it discharged, but it did). Luckily facing away from everyone so it just blew a hole in the back wall of the building, but my buddy said he couldn't hear anything but ringing for a couple hours (it was a really small room).If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
Holy crap! Glad everyone's ok at least.
The moral of this story is any gun, regardless of whether it is "loaded" or not is ALWAYS loaded. Always.
I've never had one go off, but a friend of mine had a .44 Anaconda go off while he was cleaning it; didn't sound like fun stuff.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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That's called a negligent discharge, emphasis on negligent. I also wouldn't be posting something that's illegal and punishable in some states/jurisdictions on the internet. I would suggest some firearms safety training. And yes I am a strong RKBA supporter and past firearms safety instructor for youth programs.DKG999
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You should refer him to a local NRA firearms safety course.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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nikolas812 wrote: »We did. Isn't bird shot and buck shot the same thing??
Bird shot shoots a million little pellets, while buck shot is composed of only 6-12 larger pellets (iirc.) Buck shot is more for "taking care of business" than hunting.
edit: NM, Face's link is much more descriptive.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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You should refer him to a local NRA firearms safety course.
Amen. Always visually check the chamber, that was plain stupid. Glad nobody was hurt.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
That's called a negligent discharge, emphasis on negligent. I also wouldn't be posting something that's illegal and punishable in some states/jurisdictions on the internet. I would suggest some firearms safety training. And yes I am a strong RKBA supporter and past firearms safety instructor for youth programs.
I figured there would be some replys like this. We have been handling guns for years without any problems. It was an accident with a malfunctioning gun. Nothing more. He was pretty shook up by the incident and a little embarrassed by what happened but I don't think he nor I will be attending any classes. Thanks for the advice though. -
I can honestly say no I have not, and never will.
A properly trained individual will never have that happen to them, its not like a car accident where you are only 50% in control of what could possibly happen..you are 100% in control of the situation and if it happens YOU screwed the pooch with nobody else to blame.
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I had a roommate in college do something very similar with his 12 gauge. Blasted a hole in our drywall, siding, the neighbors siding and drywall, all before the 00 buck shot ripped our neighbors sofa apart. His mother should have been sitting there watching her daily soap opera, except she had a hair appointment that day. It only takes one time to really eff up some lives...Wristwatch--->Crisco
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You're wrong, I've seen properly trained individuals do worse. We're only human, mistakes happen.shadowofnight wrote: »I can honestly say no I have not, and never will.
A properly trained individual will never have that happen to them, its not like a car accident where you are only 50% in control of what could possibly happen..you are 100% in control of the situation and if it happens YOU screwed the pooch with nobody else to blame.
Glad to see nobody was injured.
As I said earlier, I'm glad nobody was injured."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Mistakes happen, but mistakes are the fault of the person making the mistake. Just because it's a mistake doesn't mean you're not at fault.
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nikolas812 wrote: »I figured there would be some replys like this. We have been handling guns for years without any problems. It was an accident with a malfunctioning gun. Nothing more. He was pretty shook up by the incident and a little embarrassed by what happened but I don't think he nor I will be attending any classes. Thanks for the advice though.
A gun with a round in the chamber that you don't know about, or haven't first checked when handling the gun, is not a malfunctioning gun. The gun seemed to function perfectly per your description of the trigger being pulled, and the round in the chamber firing. It's obvious the chamber was not visually checked, and that is negligence on the part of whoever pulled the trigger. It doesn't matter if you've been handling guns 1 day or 20 yrs, the rules are the same. Hopefully the embarrassment and realization that someone could of gotten badly injured will lead to safer practices in the future. It's usually someone very experienced that thinks their experience trumps the rules that gets surprised by these incidents. I apologize for my harshness on this, but I have seen the not so happy ending to a negigent discharge.DKG999
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we can take this as a lesson, even experienced people can make mistakes if what can seem to be anal safety precautions are not followed. looks like someone got a scary lesson in that.
thanks for relaying the story, sure were gonna bust his balls. Monday Morning quarterbacking the situation is going to tell us that it was a fairly stupid thing to do, but we can all learn from it.Living Room 2 Channel -
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First off, I'm glad nobody was hurt!
You never point a weapon or pull the trigger especially, at anything you don't intend to shoot. ALWAYS, visually and physically check the chamber for a round. You can have a friend(standing clear of the mussel)poke a clearing rod through the barrel to make sure nothing is in the chamber. There is NO excuse for a negligent discharge besides not being PROPERLY trained to clear the weapon, it can cost you your life and others around you.
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Glad nobody was hurt.
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You're wrong, I've seen properly trained individuals do worse. We're only human, mistakes happen.
As I said earlier, I'm glad nobody was injured.
****...there is absolutely no possible way in the world I or any properly trained person should pull the trigger on a firearm with the muzzle pointed in a direction that could cause harm. I dont care if you checked that it was not loaded 20 times...its just not something you do period.
Thats not something you could classify as a human mistake....its something permanently etched into your subconcious not to pull the trigger on a firearm in a direction that could cause harm.
Even though I KNOW I checked the firearm for cartridges...if its a firearm that does not have a decocking mechanism, it will always be decocked in a situation that even IF a human mistake was made and it happened to be loaded ( Not gonna happen ) nothing worse then a bang and embarrassment will ensue.The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club -
You never point a weapon or pull the trigger especially, at anything you don't intend to shoot. There is NO excuse for a negligent discharge
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LOL! You guys are funny. I never ment for this to turn into some debate. I agree with just about everything everybody is saying. YOU WIN..... I just wanted to share a scary moment is all. I didn't think it would turn into this. This will be my last post in this thread
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Not trying to be funny or make a debate(there is nothing to debate about), just want to make sure something careless like this doesn't happen again.
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I never said you. But, I know a few people who go through vigorous firearms training EVERY year and still managed to put a hole through their wall, leg, or foot.shadowofnight wrote: »****...there is absolutely no possible way in the world I or any properly trained person should pull the trigger on a firearm with the muzzle pointed in a direction that could cause harm. I dont care if you checked that it was not loaded 20 times...its just not something you do period."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Face - sometimes you just can't fix stupid.DKG999
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I never said you. But, I know a few people who go through vigorous firearms training EVERY year and still managed to put a hole through their wall, leg, or foot.
I didnt take that personally...its all good...and unfortunately I do know one dummy that did just that....we never let him live it down for 12 years either...he was the manager of MY manager...real bigshot at work...pulled the clip on his H&K91 and magically thought it was unloaded.
Ended up putting a 30 caliber sized hole in his ceiling...a downstairs apt no less...luckily no one was home upstairs. It feels really really good to call your managers manager a dumb ****
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The poor refrigerator, microwave, and coffee pot.
I dont know...the coffee pot took it in stride
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ROFl look at the third picture..the dog in the reflection is in the bedroom like "im getting outa here before i get blasted"..
1 question though. what were you doing with the shotgun? i know you said he was checking to see if it was loaded, what was the trigger pull for? "well i pumped the ejector and nothing came out..so JUSSSSST to make sure it wasnt loaded i pulled the trigger"?
someone referred to taking some NRA firearms safety classes. you responded that you have handled firearms for many years and don't think you need them. i would ask you to reconsider because it shows that just because you've handled firearms a long time doesn't mean you understand how they operate. if none of you thought to at least just visually to check the chamber..i'm still kind of afraid for your safety and the people around you.
when i unload my handgun every night, no matter how many times i do it and no matter how POSITIVE i am there's nothing in the chamber..i will never ever just pull the trigger.
