New Driftwood pics up

phuz

Originally posted by mantis
but you don't like when people post **** things around here correct????

Sorry man but liv4fam completely disrespected Ron's hard work by jumping on this thread, trying to tell him what he already knows, and then trying to one up him.

He's just asking for it, so he's going to get it. It's that simple.

TroyD

I take it all back, it's not worth getting into over. I apologize.

Troy

mantis

TroyD,

Oh, and as far as respecting what others do for a living, I refer you to his thread where he states his opinion of the U.S. Air Force. Boy, Dan, sure didn't see you were outraged about that or is it we can't knock what YOU two do, everything else is fair game though.

You don't like when people insult you for what you do for a living...well how many times did I tell you and Russ I don't like it,but you insisted on calling me a box cutter and my job means little,Your an Installer and all the other crap you guys posted.I'm completely sick of it.I don't think doing it back is right,liv4fam was sick of the disrespectfull post you guys made on me and let everyone have it in here.I assume better I know you guys don't care for his style of posting.Personally I don't care for it,but you guys love ripping on people and now someone in here rips back and your all upset about it, even tried to get him kicked out.
Think about this for a moment.....I never ripped on anyone in this forum for what they do for a living,thats a personal insult and completely disrespectfull.I joked around with Russ when he was unemplyed but felt like a **** after I read what I typed ,I IM'd him and told him I was sorry.Ask him yourself.You ....NEVER once did I insult you.Get your quote on and try to find one post I ripped your job.
This **** gotta end,if your willing to stop with the job thing.I'll talk with Liv4fam about backing off and posting civil.I'ts not my place to do so but I would if both sides of the fence agree's.

As far as wanting to help others in here,being a professional that I am, you guys smacked it in my face and told me it means little.I have spoke to you on countless occasions that I might word my posts like I'm talking down sometimes to people,but as you know I mean well.I added in my opnion ,and what I think and all the other suttle things I could think of to try to restyle my posting so people wouldn't get offended by my words.

I love this stuff and love talking to all you guys about it.I feel I helped alot of the members,and alot of you guys helped me.

The other thing that bothers me is the constant reference to expensive gear.I made a new thead about my upgrades and that even turned into a pissing match,you even commented how you couldn't even lend a brother a helping hand as you felt it was a waste of your time,a shootout between flagship receivers.If thats how you feel,I respect it.I'm not going to try to change your opnion.

Hoosier makes an EXCELLENT point about the gear that he actually owns. He seems to enjoy bashing the rigs of other folks yet his own isn't exactly world class. Not that there is anything wrong with it but it's the old "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

I'm going to address it from MY point of view.Ive made some bad choices in my audio and video journey.I'm not sorry for any of it but I learned a great deal by expermenting with things.Everyone in here has nice rigs,all of them including mine and liv4fam's could use some tweaking here and there.I assume thats why all of us love this forum so much.
Like Ron's theater,you say liv4fam just ripped his theater,not true,I started with the wire thing and liv4fam brought up some good points about room reflections and the amount of power he has for that small room.When Ron and myself talked about it,nobody said anything, but when Liv4fam talked about it,you guys jumped down his throat.
Defending him...........Yes I will.Want to insult him about his job,credit and all that unessary bull,you now will have a problem with me,every single time.
Liv4fam is a really great guy,he knows alot about audio and video.He has a burning passion like most of us in here.If we all could just start over clean,things could be alot different.
Troy your side of the fence is just as guilty as ours is.None of us are right for posting **** ****.

So I herby extend my hand out in truce once and for all.Can we all say sorry for the past,be forgiven,and move on to better things like amps...LOL ???????

TroyD

Same deal, I retract my statements, I apologize, let's press on

BDT

MxStYlEpOlKmAn

i know 2 year olds that have better sense than all...when yall read something do u read two words and like just automatically assume something? this entire post liv4fam and mantis havnt ripped neones rigs or nething, and im personally sick of reading about this, how people rip others rigs, i have pics of my rig, but el im not gonna post em...but w/e yall decide
-MX-

ohh yeah....liv4fam has posted so god awful posts, but he has really calmed em down since micah talked to him, atleast i think so....just give the guy a second chance

gidrah

Looks great Ron.

If you have any reflection/resonance problems, you might want to try something like this.
http://www.melhuish.org/audio/diy42.htm

I'm jealous. I don't have the room nor motivation for a dedicated theater room. And hell, I've got wire dangling over doorways and in a big wad behind my rack and TV. It still sounds pretty good to me.

MxStYlEpOlKmAn

i got wires on my walls, held up by tacks, i dont care tho, i mean el if it was a dedicated ht room i would hide em...but its a bedroom....and well....umm no....i dont see the point to hide em....

hoosier21

Let me say this first, I am disappointed in myself, I have entered one of those forum pissing matches that I absolutely hate.

Mantis, looking at your responses above, it is clear you missed the point I was making.

Good work guys, looks great. Have a good day.

shack

i know 2 year olds that have better sense than all...when yall read something do u read two words and like just automatically assume something? this entire post liv4fam and mantis havnt ripped neones rigs or nething, and im personally sick of reading about this, how people rip others rigs, i have pics of my rig, but el im not gonna post em...but w/e yall decide


ohh yeah....liv4fam has posted so god awful posts, but he has really calmed em down since micah talked to him, atleast i think so....just give the guy a second chance

How Old? - MxStYlEpOlKmAn - almost 14

From the mouths of ....Teenagers.

HBombToo

"Proof of Great Parents IMO."

I can only hope my 2 year old hits her teen's with this amount of respect for others.

Good on ya MxStYlEpOlKmAn!

HBomb

MxStYlEpOlKmAn

one who learns from others, mistakes and break throughs, learns much

lol....actually heres the way i see it, guys in here arnt rich people, if u r, thats awesome, but most of the guys have to work their butts off for their stuff, and when they post their rigs on here the last thing they wanna hear is how bad their rig is compared to others, and i think u should respect everyone and everyones stuff, and it dont take a 50 year old man to realize that, its practically common sense

Ron-P

Thanks to all for the positive comments.

These pics are more update status than anything, I still have a lot of detail work to do, a lot. But with the theater up and running, movie viewing is cutting into that.

What did you say 9'x16'? What measures did you take to minimize speaker reflections since the speakers are soo close to the walls and the ceilings are very low.

What subwoofer are you using? And why did have so much power in that room?

Yes, 9x16. As for speaker reflections, I don't have any. The rear wall and side walls are covered with rubber backed black felt and the rear wall is all curtains. Only the ceiling is painted and that I painted it with a rough texture mixed in to break up sound waves. The mains are a bit close to the walls, but moving them out farther did not effect the sound enough to warrent keeping them away from the walls. I do toe them in at about a 20 degrees which I'm sure helps.

As for the sub, it is a DIY 177 liter sealed SonoTube with a 15" Tempest driver powered by a 250 watt plate amp. Too much for the room, no way. I have her cut off at 60Hz and she runs perfectly. I have yet to run the AVIA frequency sweep to find any nulls or spikes, but so far, I cannot detect any.

Ron I believe is a professional contractor so I think he might know a thing or two about construction.

Civil Engineer to be exact. All my construction experience came from my dad and books. Just something I love to do, build.

I could have gone with the more traditional theater look, putting the speakers behind a false wall along with the TV and gear and going with more colors in the room, like reds, but I love the exposed look (man that just sounds bad ). Anyway, I like having all my gear out for all to see, the speakers on stands, just love that look. I also don't like the color red.

Thanks again guys.


Peace Out~:D

mantis

maybe this can end on a happy note.I'm glad everyone is calming down.Now maybe we can get back to posting what we all love..

Do we need a group hug????

mantis

O hoosier,
Sorry for comiing off so strong,you really hit a nerve with the job thing.I respect what you said and excepted.

TroyD,
thats cool.

RonP,
I', building a theater in my basement starting early next year like Feburary.I will post some pic's when It's in progress.I can't wait to see your finished room.Isn't this all so fun

madmax

Looks great Ron! I like the component shelf. It could be cool to sit it back into the wall in a "closet-like" opening (with no door) with accessibility from the back but that is only an opinion. Does the room contain the sound or is it loud outside? Just wondering.
Great job!
madmax

liv4fam

Well Mantis had an opinion last night huh?

So this is my opinion, I have said a lot of mean and disrespectful stuff since I have been on this Forum and I do apologize for the way I act but like Dan said "It was all fun and games when everybody was calling mantis a box cutter and then when I came in and gave everybody a taste of there own medicine I became a TROLL.

Well I can handle being called a TROLL but I really want to stop posting crap everyday and actually want to talk about audio and video without having to call people stupid and ignorant.

So what I am going to do on my part is leave Troy alone and respect his opinion as I would like him to respect mine as an installer.

Secondly I will not blantly beat anybodies system (which I don't do) and I will make my best effort to have an opinion and not get mad when somebody else doesn't agree with my opinion.

Dan really hates when people make fun of his/our job so let's stop bashing what people do for a living and let's get along.

Troy, I apologize for everything I did to you.

Russman, Dude I think you are the funniest person I have ever talked to.

If anybody wants to e-mail me with any concerns or thoughts or just to get stuff of there chest about me.

E-mail me Liv4fam98@aol.com

I will put my new system pics later tonight.
(No In-walls, Mcintosh, Yamaha, PSW-1200, etc etc...)

Let's put it in the past.

Ron-P

Does the room contain the sound or is it loud outside? Just wondering.

The sound is contained very, very well. Better than I had expected and I still have yet to put the exterior portion of the roof on.

Let's put it in the past.

I agree.


Peace Out~:D

TroyD

The more I been thinking about putting the speakers in cabinets, I've heard that with care, it can be done. In fact, If I'm not mistaken, Russ has his kitchen speakers mounted in cabinets. Maybe he could shed some light on how it worked out for him.


BDT

TroyD

For me? No.

Russ actually did it. In his whole house rig, he wanted the speakers in the kitchen to be as unobtrusive as possible. I sent him an email to see if he could post some pics. It's pretty cool actually.

BDT

RuSsMaN

I have had quite a few issues putting speakers in other cabinets. I am currently testing which is better, the microwave, or the cabinet.

The glass door on the microwave isn't as transparent as the wood doors on the cabinets, but the low end is so much more 'punchy'.

However, I have been testing more, and if you will notice in the pic, the can of SpaghettiOs with Sliced Franks on top of the left KEF acting as an 'isolator'. I think I may have tightened up the low end enough to finally settle on this setup. I initally tried adding 1 can of BBQ flavored Vienna Suasages at a time, but I think the single 16oz can of Franco-American goodness works best.

Thank you, and good night!

Cheers,
Rooster

F1nut

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Maybe if you nuked them for a few, it would warm up the bass!

TroyD

Have you tried setting the speakers on top of a box of pasta? I've heard that Mueller's lends itself well to superior imaging while the no yolk type tends to be less coherent. Thoughts, Russmeister?

BDT

audionutt

man oh man that is classic will you give us a full review?

joe

RuSsMaN

Thanks for the input guys, reviews to follow. Unfortunatley Troy, the best I can find locally is Skinner Lasagna Noodles. I do think the 'wavy' pattern could help acoustically, but I just can't squeeze it in there. (Plus, with Spag-O's at $1.09, Noodles at $2.19 -Spinach flavored, I know, I know, but if I were to do it, I would go all out).

And no, I'm no pro at this, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Cheers,
Rooster

audionutt

i just spit out my macaroni salad!!

joe

hoosier21

Russman what a great job, keep us updated.

Just think..... he just applied at Tweeter today!

Is there a better man for the job? I say...............................no.

MxStYlEpOlKmAn

Customer: Yes I am looking for speakers...
Russ: For Home, Computer, or Kitchen?

Frank Z

....Fries with that?

TroyD

*cough*

The Kef thread and the mention of Russ's Cresta's made me think of this thread....skip to page 2...

Man, this STILL cracks me up.

BDT

VR3

I think this was like...

the first thread I really ever posted in...

To funny

And man did I sound like a moron!