weird smell from RTi10's

Mauskar
Mauskar Posts: 104
edited February 2008 in Speakers
Guys,

Im noticing a small smell (cant describe) while playing my RTi10's as fronts. My receiver is an HK 347, with the crossovers set to 100 + for the fronts (everything lower passed to the sub).

Any ideas, as I am not playing music loud, and its isnt bass heavy (ie, dave matthews, smashing pumpkins)

Thx
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited February 2008
    It's the pair of Dorokusai's underwear that he had to dispose of on the last Polk factory visit. It will go away, eventually :p

    On a more serious note, are they brand new?
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited February 2008
    I always though Dave Matthews looked like he smelled funny. Billy Corgan looks like a germaphobe so I doubt it was him. Probably left over smell from Dave Matthews. :D
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    edited February 2008
    Electrical (ozone) or just a smell?
    Maybe that pesky mouse has some relatives,
    and is trying to get back at us polkies.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63327
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  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    LOL

    the speakers are new- had them for about a month. And pretty sure that there is no underwear floating around my speakers. Call it a hunch...

    LOL
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,236
    edited February 2008
    Could you point us in the direction of this smell? Paint? Electrical? "Funky"? Rubber?

    Come on man, how 'bout a little hint?
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  • Hi-Buy
    Hi-Buy Posts: 110
    edited February 2008
    Do they smell right away ? or only after listening for a while ?
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  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited February 2008
    Probably the glues in the woofer.

    If the box is ported, the port is guaranteed to give off the scent. If they are closed, check the woofer. Touch the dustcap with your hand to see if they are still warm after playing.

    This is a situation seen most often in car audio due to the power levels. How loud is "I am not playing music loud"?
  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    Hi-Buy wrote: »
    Do they smell right away ? or only after listening for a while ?

    they smell after listening for about 45 minutes, but smell more if i turn up the volume...
  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    ShinAce wrote: »
    Probably the glues in the woofer.

    If the box is ported, the port is guaranteed to give off the scent. If they are closed, check the woofer. Touch the dustcap with your hand to see if they are still warm after playing.

    This is a situation seen most often in car audio due to the power levels. How loud is "I am not playing music loud"?

    the towers are ported. i checked the porting and they arent warm. I normally play music and listen to the TV around -20 db...

    just want to make sure its not something severe like burning insulation on the wiring or something...
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited February 2008
    You might have a cross-over component with a little glue slopped on it that is making some odor. You can call Polk Customer Service and discuss it with them.
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  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited February 2008
    If you want to, crank them but not so loud that you have distortion to (speed up the break-in)/(find out if they're gonna quit on you).

    Sounds to me like it is the woofer only that is generating the smell.
  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    ShinAce wrote: »
    If you want to, crank them but not so loud that you have distortion to (speed up the break-in)/(find out if they're gonna quit on you).

    Sounds to me like it is the woofer only that is generating the smell.

    Thought that it might be the woofers as well, which is why i set the crossover for the fronts above 100 (in my HK's menu). Everything below 100 is sent to the sub...
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    Smell aside, your bottom woofers are only being used from 100hz to 125hz. I would use a lower crossover frequency, such as 60 or 80hz.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,064
    edited February 2008
    don't know about that smell but those are not sats, so lower th xover or 80 for sure.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2008
    10's I would run at 60-80hz, and I highly recommend an amp for them to take the load off the HK for the rest of the channels. Then run the mains as large(no XO) to get stereo LF out of them.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    ben62670 wrote: »
    10's I would run at 60-80hz, and I highly recommend an amp for them to take the load off the HK for the rest of the channels. Then run the mains as large(no XO) to get stereo LF out of them.

    Currently I am running them large, but set the cross over to over 100 so that the load would be taken off the receiver to power the woofers on the rti10's. Im planning on getting an amp, but not anything soon- tuition for med school comes first!

    is there a difference between the large and small setting?
    and what is a good amp- i know about adcom and rotels, but do i need 200wpc? If show can you point me out to a good and cheap 2 channel amp please..
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,064
    edited February 2008
    did you connect the sub with 1 rca type cable? if yes set the xover to small and 80. When you get an amp set it to 60 or lower.
  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    Willow wrote: »
    did you connect the sub with 1 rca type cable? if yes set the xover to small and 80. When you get an amp set it to 60 or lower.

    one RCA cable. will give it a shot. out of curiosity, what will this do? reduce the load on the speakers?
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2008
    I'm using just a single Digital Coaxial cable to connect my receiver to my DSW Pro 600...to my untrained ear it sounds pretty good
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  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    I'm using just a single Digital Coaxial cable to connect my receiver to my DSW Pro 600...to my untrained ear it sounds pretty good

    Im just using a PSW10 that came with the speakers. :(

    Maybe later i'll upgrade to a HSU or velodyne, but in due time. the amp comes first..
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    Digital coax is 75ohm just like a typical sub cable, should sound fine.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,236
    edited February 2008
    Mauskar wrote: »
    Im noticing a small smell (cant describe) while playing my RTi10's as fronts.
    In order to help you, what is the smell?
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  • Mauskar
    Mauskar Posts: 104
    edited February 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    In order to help you, what is the smell?

    its hard to describe, but i want to say it smells like a circuitboard that has been overheated- kinda harsh tuna oil smell or something to that effect..
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    edited February 2008
    Call Polk CS.Sounds like the crossover.And for gods sake man,lower that crossover to around 70,at 100,it's way too high.
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  • djc9
    djc9 Posts: 37
    edited February 2008
    Mauskar wrote: »
    its hard to describe, but i want to say it smells like a circuitboard that has been overheated- kinda harsh tuna oil smell or something to that effect..

    I actually had a similar experience when I pulled the RTi10's out of the box. Definitely a "tuna oil"'ish smell coming from the front of the speakers if I got really close to the grills to smell. But the speakers had never been played and after I set them up there was no increase in smell and the speakers have sounded great.

    I put a couple of reed diffusers on each speaker and there's no smell anymore. I figured that was that.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2008
    Hi-Buy wrote: »
    Do they smell right away ? or only after listening for a while ?

    Sorry but this could be an excellent slogan for Bose.

    I would call Ken Swauger at POLK CS about your speaks, he definetely does not smell.

    RT1
  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited February 2008
    Mauskar wrote: »
    Currently I am running them large, but set the cross over to over 100 so that the load would be taken off the receiver to power the woofers on the rti10's.

    Is there a difference between the large and small setting?
    And what is a good amp- I know about adcom and rotels, but do I need 200wpc? If show can you point me out to a good and cheap 2 channel amp please..

    If you set your front channels as LARGE, how did you also set the crossover to 100? On my receiver and a few others I have seen, once you set the channel to LARGE, there is no longer a crossover option for that channel. Perhaps you set the other channels at 100.

    When set to LARGE, you eliminate any filtering by the crossover so you are sending the full frequency. As for the amp, well this question is asked at least 3 times a week so the search option is your friend. I can tell you the two amps that you listed will do well.
  • GSRBOB
    GSRBOB Posts: 172
    edited February 2008
    Mine smelled to when i got them. But not like a burned circuit board or cap. More like the construction of the enclosure.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    m00npie wrote: »
    If you set your front channels as LARGE, how did you also set the crossover to 100? On my receiver and a few others I have seen, once you set the channel to LARGE, there is no longer a crossover option for that channel. Perhaps you set the other channels at 100.
    With some receivers/preamps, it's possible to set them to LARGE and still adjust the crossover. I believe I was able to with my Onkyo, HK, and Mac.
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  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited February 2008
    Face wrote: »
    With some receivers/preamps, it's possible to set them to LARGE and still adjust the crossover. I believe I was able to with my Onkyo, HK, and Mac.

    Cool... Denon will disable the feature when selected as LARGE. Did you notice a difference with it crossed at say 80 with the front channels set as LARGE then at SMALL?