just when you think terrorists cant get any lower

ohskigod

are they f*(king KIDDING me!??!?!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=paBomb_Fri_1650_Baghdad_market_bombsUD2&show_article=1

figured a good terrorist rant will make us forget about all this banning business

shack

Everyone who wants to tear down this country because "We're Bad" and mistreat the rest of the world MAKE ME SICK! Name one other country in the history of mankind that has given as much aid, support, money, time, etc...etc...to people OUTSIDE THEIR BORDERS as the United States of America. Whether it be famine, political, natural disasters, disease...the US is the first to send money, food, equipment and people to help. There is no other country in the world whose citizens give of their time and money to help others as the US. This is not propaganda...it is fact. We are the most charitable giving people and nation on the earth.

And what do we get for it? Most of the rest of the world HATES us...BUT...they sure want to BE us. Any many of our own citizens do nothing but talk about how bad we are and talk about how it's OUR fault when we are attacked from outside our borders and how we deserve the hate we get. I pity those so called "citizens".

I'm disgusted....and I'm done with this thread. It's going to be locked anyway.

Early B.

shack wrote: »

Whether it be famine, political, natural disasters, disease...the US is the first to send money, food, equipment and people to help. There is no other country in the world whose citizens give of their time and money to help others as the US. This is not propaganda...it is fact. We are the most charitable giving people and nation on the earth.

That's a patriotic American's perspective. The growing international sentiment is that America (i.e., its government and large corporations) sucks the blood (i.e., human and natural resources) out of lots of countries, especially "third world" countries, then gives a tiny portion of it back to them in the form of foreign aid. A good thief can always serve as a generous host.

bobman1235

While I certainly understand being critical of some US policies and international whatnot... I'd love to know how or why some people in America use it as an actual justification for terrorism. In the same breath most of you criticize the Iraq war you essentially say we deserve everything we get because we're so evil. It's mind-boggling. You can either see the reasoning behind BOTH, or NEITHER, but I can't imagine any scenario where you can actually say what terrorists do is actually NOT AS BAD as what we've done in Iraq.

Early B.

bobman1235 wrote: »

While I certainly understand being critical of some US policies and international whatnot... I'd love to know how or why some people in America use it as an actual justification for terrorism. In the same breath most of you criticize the Iraq war you essentially say we deserve everything we get because we're so evil. It's mind-boggling. You can either see the reasoning behind BOTH, or NEITHER, but I can't imagine any scenario where you can actually say what terrorists do is actually NOT AS BAD as what we've done in Iraq.

Here are some definitions of terrorism: http://www.globalterrorism101.com/UTDefinition.html

Upon reading these definitions, many people around the globe, regardless of race, creed or religion, would consider America to be the greatest terroristic threat in the world.

Americans keep throwing the term, "terrorist" around loosely, but never use it when describing our own actions. Beware of the person who calls you an ****, for he is likely to be a bigger ****.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Wow...I'm not going to join the fray, but I think people like wizzy and Early B are way off base...

audiobliss

Polkmaniac wrote: »

Wow...I'm not going to join the fray, but I think people like wizzy and Early B are way off base...

ditto on both counts

tonyb

rskarvan wrote: »

Doesn't the Bible state that we should LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR and to TURN THE OTHER CHEEK???

Let me know how that works out for you,if someday,some a-hole breaks into your house,kills your family,and you do nothing about it but stand there.Not that I wish this apon you,but you get the point.

People came into OUR house,Killed 3000 members of OUR family,laughed and cheered about it,continue killing OUR family,and you want the rest of OUR family to roll over,turn the other cheek? Nice Ron....real stand up guy you are.

wizzy

Here's a quick primer on US Terrorist activities in the last 100 or so years:

http://www.doublestandards.org/usmurder.html

tonyb

Early B. wrote: »

Here are some definitions of terrorism: http://www.globalterrorism101.com/UTDefinition.html

Upon reading these definitions, many people around the globe, regardless of race, creed or religion, would consider America to be the greatest terroristic threat in the world.

Americans keep throwing the term, "terrorist" around loosely, but never use it when describing our own actions. Beware of the person who calls you an ****, for he is likely to be a bigger ****.

Brad...definitions Brad ?

Tell me when we acted in such a way that is remotely on par with extremist.
People of feeble mind believe this bull........

audiobliss

rskarvan wrote: »

Doesn't the Bible state that we should LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR and to TURN THE OTHER CHEEK???

The Bible also warns that the government doesn't bear the sword in vain.

tonyb

wizzy wrote: »

Here's a quick primer on US Terrorist activities in the last 100 or so years:

http://www.doublestandards.org/usmurder.html

Propaganda bull not even worth my time.I hear France is calling you to come home.

wizzy

tonyb wrote: »

Let me know how that works out for you,if someday,some a-hole breaks into your house,kills your family,and you do nothing about it but stand there.Not that I wish this apon you,but you get the point.

People came into OUR house,Killed 3000 members of OUR family,laughed and cheered about it,continue killing OUR family,and you want the rest of OUR family to roll over,turn the other cheek? Nice Ron....real stand up guy you are.

Okay Tony, how do you propose we deal with Saudi Arabia then?

Count the contries of origin here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizers_of_the_September_11,_2001_attacks

The problem with your argument is if you can kill they guy who killed your family, hey you got my support.

But if all you can do is say "oh gosh, it's some a-hole from the state of Idaho, so I'm going to go bomb the crap out of the entire state of Idaho even though 99.99999% of them had nothing to do with it" then I would disagree with your response.

I'm all for punishing those who directly had a hand on bombing the WTC. Iraq, of course, had next to nothing to do with the WTC bombing.

wizzy

tonyb wrote: »

Propaganda bull not even worth my time.I hear France is calling you to come home.

Actually it's not, I made sure to reference a site which pretty much tells it like it really happened. Everything there is quite verifiable and accepted as fact - it's just history people in the US prefer not to teach their children.

tonyb

There in lies the problem,because those responsible are members of organizations scattered thruout the globe,in many different countries,SUPPORTED by many so called LEADERS of these countries.You either deal with it over there,or deal with it within our borders.Obviously,you don't care as long as it is not your immediate family,do you?Lets look at it this way.....some dudes cut off your sons head,you know where this dude is,you have the option of throwing a grenade in the house,killing him and anyone else that is there.But the others are either other scumbags or joe citizen.Most likely and not always the case,scumbags hang with other scumbags.Sure,you could call the police,and have the chance he would get away to kill again.So the choice is yours,throw the grenade,or turn the other cheek.I for one,have no problem throwing that grenade.If you do,then you have become what extremist want you to.To live in fear of them.

tonyb

wizzy wrote: »

Actually it's not, I made sure to reference a site which pretty much tells it like it really happened. Everything there is quite verifiable and accepted as fact - it's just history people in the US prefer not to teach their children.

Oh there are facts in there,distorted none the less.
Genecide in Vietnam for one......the real genecide happened when we LEFT.And that is a fact son.

shadowofnight

wizzy wrote: »

Actually it's not, I made sure to reference a site which pretty much tells it like it really happened. Everything there is quite verifiable and accepted as fact - it's just history people in the US prefer not to teach their children.

The crap on that webpage is anything BUT fact....just because you read it on the internet on some dimestore formatted web page doesnt make anything on there fact. Even the pages header speaks volumes

America: Rogue State
Adapted from Rogue State by William Blum, the book recommended by Osama bin-Laden.

Weezy, you are coming off like a 19 year old Iraqi with a laptop and a web connection....not a U.S. citizen from Asheville, NC ....you are not going to find anybody on here that wants to discuss these issues .

Lets get back on topic about how low the terrorists stooped or close the thread...one or the other.

Ron-P

Maybe it's time for a dress code change, tight jeans and T-shirts only. No place to hide explosives.

shadowofnight

Ron-P wrote: »

Maybe it's time for a dress code change, tight jeans and T-shirts only. No place to hide explosives.

They have the technology for exploding tampons....;)

tonyb

shadowofnight wrote: »

They have the technology for exploding tampons....;)

I needed a good laugh!!!!! Thanks.

shadowofnight

Talk about a dirty bomb...

tonyb

:DCUT IT OUT.......your friggin' killing me over here!!!!:D

Early B.

Ron-P wrote: »

Maybe it's time for a dress code change, tight jeans and T-shirts only. No place to hide explosives.

Now that's an idea we can all agree on!!:p

I'll bet once unveiled, a lot of those women are da bomb!
(Oops, wrong choice of words.)

tonyb

Banned.....for not useing PC terminology.:)

ohskigod

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Their ghosts might find it a bit ironical that the country that sold Saddam those chemical weapons and taught Saddam's forces how to use those same weapons then found it necessary to invade Iraq because of the threat of those weapons against the United States (or our allies in the region, the Israelis).

true, we sold them because they were our ally at the time (and we hated Iran like hell). I dont think we had "please use on own people" written on the invoice though, I mean Cmon!! we can argue the semantics on this all day, and both sides would have valid points, I'll concede that, however note I pulled this in the context of Wizzy saying "Bush pulled the WMD's issue out of thin air"

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

They might be puzzled a bit by the fact that Saddam had no effective means of delivering those weapons (if still possessed) against the US, and Saddam knew the Israelis would not hesitate for an instant to use nuclear weapons in the event of a chemical attack.

those weapons in a terrorists knapsack would be plenty enough an effective delivery device. Also, while Saddam was not fundamentalist islamic, people who were could have gotten them if they paid enough (granted, if they really existed). If you think for a million years terrorists care about a Nuclear deterrent, you really havent been paying attention.

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Some of those ghosts that are crazy might think they see a connection between Saddam's bold move to move Iraq's oil industry from the US Dollar over to Euro's.

If we did everything for oil, we would have stomped Venezuela into the ground by now, so cmon man, be serious will ya?

ohskigod

Early B. wrote: »

Here are some definitions of terrorism: http://www.globalterrorism101.com/UTDefinition.html

Upon reading these definitions, many people around the globe, regardless of race, creed or religion, would consider America to be the greatest terroristic threat in the world.

Americans keep throwing the term, "terrorist" around loosely, but never use it when describing our own actions. Beware of the person who calls you an ****, for he is likely to be a bigger ****.

effing amazing :rolleyes:

rskarvan

tonyb wrote: »

Let me know how that works out for you,if someday,some a-hole breaks into your house,kills your family,and you do nothing about it but stand there.Not that I wish this apon you,but you get the point.

People came into OUR house,Killed 3000 members of OUR family,laughed and cheered about it,continue killing OUR family,and you want the rest of OUR family to roll over,turn the other cheek? Nice Ron....real stand up guy you are.

Thank goodness Jesus didn't have your attitude!!!

treitz3

OMG Ron!!! So let me get this straight. If someone tonight...comes into your house.....kills your wife, kids, dog, cats and fish and sets your house on fire after killing your neighbors that you also hold dear to your heart........

You'd turn the other cheek?

Disclaimer. To the forum moderators, this is just a question and in NO way is a threat, a suggestion of a threat or even so much as a hint of internet ****. It is simply a valid question that I would like to ask this particular member.

disneyjoe7

Thought we should be aware of these kinds of demonstrations.

View the pictures below and decide how you really feel about the future of the Western World.

These pictures are of Muslims marching through the streets of London during their recent 'Religion of Peace Demonstration.'










Why would anyone think that we should be at war with such nice, peaceful Moslems?!

Americans need to know - You need to forward this one to everyone in your address book! These Pictures tell it all!

Muslims have stated that England will be the first country they take over!

These are pictures not shown on American TV or in American Newspapers (as they might help Bush's war on terror), but were forwarded to me by a Canadian Friend who thought Americans ought to know!



(This is an email which I wish to post in this thread, but there must be an easier way)

treitz3

rskarvan wrote: »

Thank goodness Jesus didn't have your attitude!!!

Ron, as you were saying?

Bill Ayotte

Those look like folk I would want to meet, maybe have dinner with...:D