Composite video, why most recent AV preamp/pro/receivers still have these?

polkatese
polkatese Posts: 6,767
edited January 2008 in The Clubhouse
I just don't get it, given the trend with HDMI, Multichannels, etc in the past few years, I failed to see why most recent gears still has composite video hookup option? Even S-Video has almost reached the status of being obsolete (IMO). Those expensive real estate in the back is better off used for extra HDMI, multiple analog 7.1, several sets components, yada yada yada.

Seriouly, I am curious how many of you still has use for composite video in connecting your video gears?

I am just ranting.
I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,195
    edited January 2008
    You can still hook up older VCR's, camcorders, portable DVD players and other devices that don't offer other types of connections. They may be obsolete for some, but not mainstream yet. I wouldn't but a TV without them.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2008
    I do. A lot of DVDs still use them. Computers still use them. The thing I would like to see on Pre's, and receivers is a second set of 7.1 direct inputs. No matter what the signal is if you sneeze on a display it is still going to be red. green, and blue. If you get a very nice player sometimes they will do the conversion from digital to analog better than the display, or the Pre/receiver.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    You can still hook up older VCR's, camcorders, portable DVD players and other devices that don't offer other types of connections. They may be obsolete for some, but not mainstream yet. I wouldn't but a TV without them.

    That's the only way for me to hook up my camcorder and Super Nintendo :)
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited January 2008
    I can see that with TV, but with receivers/pre/pro?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    They are handy for utlity screen displays like my SMS-1 or menu displays for device where PQ is not important.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,195
    edited January 2008
    Chit! I forgot the SMS-1. Good point there Darla.
    polkatese wrote: »
    I can see that with TV, but with receivers/pre/pro?
    They are there for the folks that have the old dinosaur TV's with only a cable hookup and nothing else. Sheer convenience. The industry has so many different connections out there that they are forced to keep up with all of them, or lose certain market share because of non-compatibility.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2008
    That is what the majority of my equipment has. I'm not the least bit interested in HDMI yet. And since I don't plan on upgrading any equipment anytime soon I keep with what I have.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited January 2008
    OSD, is what I can think of
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2008
    HDMI sucks. How many effing versions do they have now, 3...4 because they can't get it right. That's BS.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited January 2008
    Entry Level receivers don't video upconvert and need the composite to display onscreen menu systems. Enter the Yamaha rxv661.

    As said, there is to much gear that people still use and want to include in there systems. I see it everyday.

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    HDMI sucks. How many effing versions do they have now, 3...4 because they can't get it right. That's BS.
    I heard the 4th is going to be the final, then they're possible going to firewire.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    I heard the 4th is going to be the final, then they're possible going to firewire.

    Hilarious.
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    I heard the 4th is going to be the final, then they're possible going to firewire.

    At least I didn't go out and buy a HDMI processor like I was going to a while ago, I would be setting fire to someone's warehouse if this **** disappeared a little after a year of being out..
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited January 2008
    polkatese wrote: »
    I just don't get it, given the trend with HDMI, Multichannels, etc in the past few years, I failed to see why most recent gears still has composite video hookup option? Even S-Video has almost reached the status of being obsolete (IMO). Those expensive real estate in the back is better off used for extra HDMI, multiple analog 7.1, several sets components, yada yada yada.

    Seriouly, I am curious how many of you still has use for composite video in connecting your video gears?

    I am just ranting.

    Well, how about people (still the majority) who don't have HD, like me. I don't use composite, but I run all connections to my reciever using S-video, and run one S-video to the tv. Plus, most people (yes, not you guys;)) don't want to spend 100 bucks a piece on HDMI cables.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    By the time I get back into the swing of things I am sure I will be looking to get my first holograph projector.:p
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited January 2008
    This is the potential downfall of being an early adopter- generally higher costs costs, some limited options in terms of compatability and possibility of a brief lifespan.

    I'm staying patient on the video/dvd front.
    Bill Ayotte wrote: »
    At least I didn't go out and buy a HDMI processor like I was going to a while ago, I would be setting fire to someone's warehouse if this **** disappeared a little after a year of being out..

    I use composite for OSD as well.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited January 2008
    tommyboy wrote: »
    Plus, most people (yes, not you guys;)) don't want to spend 100 bucks a piece on HDMI cables.

    monoprice.com, that's where my HDMI cables came from, 10 footer for $19.24


    I see that some of you DO has use for composite, and that's cool.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited January 2008
    You still need composites for SACD, and us cheap f*cks that don't want to upgrade our satelite rcvrs!
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2008
    I use it for SNES and N64. Smash Brothers, baby!
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