Signal or Zebra cables??
iskandam
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I'm currently using monoprice 12 awg cables hand-terminated with banana plugs on all my speakers. After hearing all the benefits that people have been getting when they upgrade to signal cable ultras I'm itching to get some taste too. After doing further research I found that Zebra cables are also well-reviewed and comparable to Signal price-wise. So now I'm split.
I'm looking to pick up some ICs for my amp and speaker cables for my fronts. For the same $$ which brand would you guys recommend? Are there specific characteristics that each cable has or are they more similar than different? Also, would I get a significant leap in sound quality using the bi-wire configuration, or am I okay with just the regular single wire... or single wire plus jumpers? I read that changing the default jumpers that come with the speakers would improve SQ and that bi-wiring is esentially doing the same thing.
I'm looking to pick up some ICs for my amp and speaker cables for my fronts. For the same $$ which brand would you guys recommend? Are there specific characteristics that each cable has or are they more similar than different? Also, would I get a significant leap in sound quality using the bi-wire configuration, or am I okay with just the regular single wire... or single wire plus jumpers? I read that changing the default jumpers that come with the speakers would improve SQ and that bi-wiring is esentially doing the same thing.
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Signal. I've never heard Zebra, but I love Signal. My whole system is wired with it.
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Give Signal a try,,good solid cable,Frank also offers a discount for CP members,,and he stands behind his products.JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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Signal FTW."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Signal cable. Good quality cables,great service.SRT For Life; SDA Forever!
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well, looks like Signal it is then! So my next question is should I use bi-wire, single run, or single run with jumper? Does it really make any difference at all?
This is the one area that's still confusing me. Is single run with the default jumper just as good as replacement jumper, or would bi-wire be a significant step up in SQ from any of those two combinations? -
My 2 cents, I think you should go with Z Cables , and I think you should bi-wire. Bi-wire is better than the stock brass jumpers.
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Zebra is good stuff, I've owned both - and prefer Signal's offerings.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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In what way is Signal different from Zebra? Better detail, extension, soundstage, clarity?
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They use the same core coaxial from Belden, much like many DIY style designs but the connectors are different as well.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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I've never had the opportunity to experience the Signals. Zebras are very good for the buck and have great service. Now, if flexibility is a concern, go with AudioArt SC-5, it's as pliable as Home Depot 14 gauge, nothing else comes close in this price range IMHO.Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
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Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
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I use Signal products throughout my setup. Great service, etc. From the Magic Power power cable to the ICs on to the Ultra Speaker Cables, you cant go wrong.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Do you guys do single run or bi-wire? I'm curious to see if there's some added benefit in sound quality in either configuration
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i second the audio art cables, a little more expensive than the signal or zebra (both of which i have had in my system) but well worth it in my opinion. you might also check zu oxyfuel interconnects and julian speaker cables but the audio art outperform these.Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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What kind of improvement should I expect by changing the default power cord that comes with a subwoofer or amplifier with either a Signal or Zebra power cord?
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What kind of improvement should I expect by changing the default power cord that comes with a subwoofer.....
If it's significant enough I'll take the plunge too
That said, in typical treitz3 fashion, I went to swap the PC around in my rig to find out where the best improvement came from. It came from the sub. I went from not really being impressed to actually liking the sub. The sound of the lower frequencies tightened up quite a bit and the integration between the sub and mains were improved to where I could actually turn up the sub without any additional "boom" present. I have since had 3 or 4 PC's I have tried in the PSW1000, but the Analysis Plus is still there today and it has made the sub quite musical [of course in my setup, I am also using a Velo SMS-1] and now I'm impressed with the sub.
I have tried the Signal Cable Digital Reference in the sub, [pictured below] but it sounded better in the CDP and SACDP in my rig. I have not used it for amplification.So my next question is should I use bi-wire, single run, or single run with jumper?~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
here's a good read on budget power cords dec. 2007 issue.
http://www.affordableaudio.org/Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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What about subwoofer cables? I'm using the monoprice RG6U coaxial sub cable but would consider upgrading if there's some benefit to be gained from this