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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2008
    While its true that SQ competitors usually have their subs crossed over very low like 40'ish, this isnt because its the best sounding option. 99.9% of the time its for imaging.

    Most SQ cars have the subs in the rear except for those that are heavily modified and usually anything over 63 Hz starts pulling to the rear quite noticeably and that can kill your imaging scores which make up over 1/3 of your total score.

    You also have to realize that the vast majority of the music listened to by SQ judges and tuned for by competitors aint nothing like what youll listen to while driving to work. Classical, jazz and a lot of stuff with stand up bass in it which is EXTREMELY hard to reproduce accurately.

    For my SQ setup I have my sub cut off at 40 Hz. For my daily driving its 63 because Id rather have the sub pull to the rear a little more in order to have a little more bass.

    Lastly, I think the problem is that youre trying to get 8's to perform like 10's. If youre wanting sub 40 Hz response, an 8 isnt the best thing regardless how many youve got. Youve got to have the right tool for the job. Get a single 10 if youre after big sub 40Hz performance. My single MM2104 plays the 18 Hz note on the IASCA disc and the 25 Hz not on the MECA disc with ease.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited January 2008
    if a driver is balls enough, getting in the mid 20's shouldn't be a problem with the power and box to accomodate. Especially coming from the home audio side of things. In car, it's usually harder but I've heard MANY 8's hit like 10's and 12's before. JL 8W6's of old... Old Solobarics... Image ID8...
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    edited January 2008
    GLN305 wrote: »
    I tried to resist the urge to read this post, but I did. I will withdraw myself from this forum.

    So you take issue with one person on a forum and put them on ignore yet still can't resist the urge to look at the post and get further ticked off and take your ball and go home?

    Fine, whatever dude. That's your decision. You ain't hurtin' me none. You're not the first person to tell me you don't like me and you aren't the last.
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited January 2008
    relax fellas :). We all have the same goal in mind which is to solve and/or maximize performance so lets keep our eye on the ball :)
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  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited January 2008
    Topper wrote: »
    relax fellas :). We all have the same goal in mind which is to solve and/or maximize performance so lets keep our eye on the ball :)

    but didnt u hear? Jstas said that GLN took it with him when he went home..
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2008
    GLN305 wrote: »
    xxxxxxxxxx

    What a panzy. :rolleyes:
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  • GLN305
    GLN305 Posts: 96
    edited January 2008
    MacLeod wrote: »
    What a panzy. :rolleyes:

    Online name calling is really a brave thing to do. I hope you feel better calling someone you don't know a panzy.
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  • GLN305
    GLN305 Posts: 96
    edited January 2008
    I'm just going to make sure that my point is clear here. I came here hoping to find like-minded people to share my installation with and talk about car audio. Apparently this isn't the place for that. I am not scared to post nor am I worried about what anyone thinks of me on the internet. Meet me in person, then judge. I have helped anyone and everyone that I can with car audio or anything else in life and honestly if you insulted me here and I know it's you on the side of the road with a flat tire or broken down, I'll still stop to help. I am just a better person than bad-mouthing on the internet.

    On a second subject I talked to a Polk Audio representative and they were of no help to me on the subject. I was simply told that "8's just don't reach the low notes." If that's the truth, in my opinion, they should not advertise a frequency responce that reads 26 - 200 Hz, it's simply not true in the enclosure they recommend nor in free field testing, nor on a baffle....the Klippel does not lie. I am lucky enough to be in Germany and know enough of the right people to spend some time with some rather nice test equipment. I do not know how to use it, but the person that did the testing agreed with my findings. I am in no way saying that Polk Audio is junk. I have a set of RT600i home speakers that I love and I look forward to buying the SR6500 set. I just think they gave into the small enclosure marketing trends that are rampant these days.

    After this, if you want to bad mouth me or put me down here, feel free, but I won't see it as this is definitely the last moment I am going to spend on this site at all. If you have any reason to confront me, want to discuss anything my e-mail address is GLN305@hotmail.com . My phone number in Germany is 0114916092542166. I will be back in the US by the end of April, so that number will not be any good after that.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    edited January 2008
    Wow.

    Just...wow.
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  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited January 2008
    i just called that number and its a **** house in Amsterdamn..... was that dad that answered?
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    edited January 2008
    Classy!
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited January 2008
    Why yall got to be a bunch of jackasses all the time?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2008
    All this drama because John disagreed with him? Sheesh. Im still trying to figure out where the personal attack was.
    eloplayspolo wrote:
    i just called that number and its a **** house in Amsterdamn..... was that mom mom that answered?

    That is a little low dude. No need to dis' the guys mom.
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited January 2008
    fixed
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited January 2008
    man....thins thing went south quickly....


    eloplayspolo, that remark you made even though edited is still a low shot. One thing is to throw shots at someone, quite another when you get their family involved.
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