Problem with HD-DVD Player

Home Theatre

I have the HD-DVD player by Toshiba(hda-3). I keep getting a error messages. It says error message 408bc504. Do i need to the update?
I am almost ready to throw this thing out the window and buy the x-box with hd drive. By the way people who have compared the X-Box drive to Toshiba players. What was better?

jakelm

Read. They seem to fix with update

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12241363

Home Theatre

I tried to watch a dog day afternoon twice. Both disks gave me errors. Just watched Ocean 13 with no problems.

Sherardp

Home Theatre wrote: »

I tried to watch a dog day afternoon twice. Both disks gave me errors. Just watched Ocean 13 with no problems.

Before or after the firmware update?

mantis

It's one thing I hate about todays technology. If it is made for a player , play the damn disc.

Home Theatre

Sherardp wrote: »

Before or after the firmware update?

Does the average person have the time or patiences to deal with this?

jakelm

Home Theatre wrote: »

Does the average person have the time or patiences to deal with this?

It is frustrating ..I know..

I know it would be bad for buisness, but alot (mostly all) of the manufactures should have a discaimer, saying, firmware update in future might be required for this player. But it is aggrivating that some players cannot do what they are sold to do, right out of the box..

I dont mind updating firmware, but update for ADDED features, NOT HAVE TO UPDATE TO GET IT TO WORK...

polktiger

if it were something other than software or electronics this would be called defective. Why software and electronics get a pass I have no idea.

The other thing that irritates along these lines is that these companies assume people have high speed internet. I don't use the internet much, and dial-up fits my needs. Now if they make high speed internet available for $10 then I will take it since that is what I pay for dial up.

I don't see a need to pay $30 a month just so I can download firmware updates for defective merchandise.

danger boy

mantis wrote: »

It's one thing I hate about todays technology. If it is made for a player , play the damn disc.

exactly.. why do HD players need so many firmware updates anyway? just to play certain movies? that seems wrong. does it also unlock extra player features?

mantis

Home Theatre wrote: »

Does the average person have the time or patiences to deal with this?

I get sick of it. It seems like every time I get a new movie, my player has 2 download something. I just want to watch the damn movie in Hi rez audio and video. Why is that so hard??

If the video quality of HD or Blue wan't as good as it is, I wouldn't use it at all.DVD was fine.

johnADA

One-The error is a disc reading error.
Two- Firmware upgrades haven't been proven to fix disc reading errors. Some have claimed it has, but the firmware was written to address issues really other than reading discs.
Three- The tiniest of anything on the disc causes 95%+ of all errors. It sucks, but I clean every disc I play and since only have had one issue of this nature and it was a light scratch. I've had brand new disc's that had the tiniest of a smudge on it and it didn't play at that point.

Blu ray uses a thin layer of disc protector, but that hasn't worked out yet either.

Firmware updates may make the machine pass over a section it cant read if its small enough, but its up to the laser itself whether it'll read a disc or not and has nothing to do with the software.
Its also been stated that since the release of the first gen machines, the lower quality machines get a plastic lens instead of a glass one. That I think it the base root of the problem.

jakelm

Luckly, my XA1 has had no issues at all. Even with its original, no problems. Load time has sped up since current updates, but other than that...no problems.

icehouse1

I have had no Problems with Mine, going on three Months now.