Tiger Attacks @Zoo
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Interesting stuff my daughter and myself (ofcourse I would be hinding behind her:D) would be thrilled to see them up close.As for a 20lb rabbit that might scare her.Testing
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About the tiger story... I've heard that it ran past a cafe full of people to chase down a particular person. To me, that screams the animal was reacting to provocation, NOT mauling people at random. If provocation is the case, I'd have to side with the "those idiots got what they deserved" camp. Something that is pointy on 5 ends out of 6 is NOT to be trifled with, regardless of what is standing between you and it.
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Yes it appears it had a defined target.About the tiger story... I've heard that it ran past a cafe full of people to chase down a particular person. To me, that screams the animal was reacting to provocation, NOT mauling people at random.
Its very tragic that this happened but it seems their stupidity is directly to blame.If provocation is the case, I'd have to side with the "those idiots got what they deserved" camp.Testing
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The friggin' media is FULL of B.S.! Yesterday, they reported the tiger was taunted by the kid who got killed, and TODAY they say he's a HERO! Ummmm, there used to be something called 'fact finding'!They're ALL tabloids now!I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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The friggin' media is FULL of B.S.! Yesterday, they reported the tiger was taunted by the kid who got killed, and TODAY they say he's a HERO! Ummmm, there used to be something called 'fact finding'!They're ALL tabloids now!
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About the tiger story... I've heard that it ran past a cafe full of people to chase down a particular person. To me, that screams the animal was reacting to provocation, NOT mauling people at random. If provocation is the case, I'd have to side with the "those idiots got what they deserved" camp.
No one "deserves" to be mauled or killed by a tiger at the zoo, no matter what they did. Zoos are designed to protect the animals from people, and vice versa. Surely, you can expect some of the animals to be taunted on a daily basis, especially by children and teenagers.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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This so-called news is starting to look like its all sourced from the Enquirer......The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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No one "deserves" to be mauled or killed by a tiger at the zoo, no matter what they did. Zoos are designed to protect the animals from people, and vice versa. Surely, you can expect some of the animals to be taunted on a daily basis, especially by children and teenagers.
This is dead on accurate. It is the Zoo's responsibility to preserve the safety of all people. The very fact that the tiger was able to escape means the Zoo effed up. They should be subject to strict liability . . . this opinion is coming from someone who normally believes people don't take enough responsibility for their actions.
Having a tiger around a bunch of people is just not natural. What if the tiger would have been provoked by a red balloon with a gorilla face on it carried by a little girl. Who would we want to hold responsible then?
Essentially, we got a 2fer. We got one more moron off the street before he grows up and now the zoo knows they need to heighten the fences and deepen the moats. -
SolidSqual wrote: »Essentially, we got a 2fer. We got one less moron off the street before he grows up and now the zoo knows they need to heighten the fences and deepen the moats.
I agree...no matter how much a peckerhead like that teases the animal ...it should not be able to escape...regardless. Just be thankful the lesson was learned with him and not the little girl/ballon scenario.The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club -
The media keeps saying that the tiger was taunted?!what kind of taunt's are they talking about?
All I can picture, is a couple clowns from Brooklyn, grabbing their crotch, and yelling
"Hey, Yo, Tigeeeer, I got ya freedom right HEEEERRRREE!"
Yes. They flew cross-country on a clown-flight from Brooklyn just to taunt the tigers and get eaten. That's what people from Brooklyn do, just as you thought.
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"Victim" admits to taunting the tiger while drunk....SAN FRANCISCO - One of the three victims of San Francisco Zoo tiger attack was intoxicated and admitted to yelling and waving at the animal while standing atop the railing of the big cat enclosure, police said in court documents filed Thursday.
Paul Dhaliwal, 19, told the father of Carlos Sousa Jr., 17, who was killed, that the three yelled and waved at the tiger but insisted they never threw anything into its pen to provoke the cat, according to a search warrant affidavit obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle.
"As a result of this investigation, (police believe) that the tiger may have been taunted/agitated by its eventual victims," according to Inspector Valerie Matthews, who prepared the affidavit. Police believe that "this factor contributed to the tiger escaping from its enclosure and attacking its victims," she said.
Sousa's father, Carlos Sousa Sr., said Dhaliwal told him the three stood on a 3-foot-tall metal railing a few feet from the edge of the tiger moat. "When they got down they heard a noise in the bushes, and the tiger was jumping out of the bushes on him (Paul Dhaliwal)," the documents said.
Police found a partial shoe print that matched Paul Dhaliwal's on top of the railing, Matthews said in the documents.
The papers said Paul Dhaliwal told Sousa that no one was dangling his legs over the enclosure. Authorities believe the tiger leaped or climbed out of the enclosure, which had a wall 4 feet shorter than the recommended minimum.
The affidavit also cites multiple reports of a group of young men taunting animals at the zoo, the Chronicle reported.
Mark Geragos, an attorney for the Dhaliwal brothers, did not immediately return a call late Thursday by The Associated Press for comment. He has repeatedly said they did not taunt the tiger.
Calls to Sousa and Michael Cardoza, an attorney for the Sousa family, also weren't returned.
Toxicology results for Dhaliwal showed that his blood alcohol level was 0.16 twice the legal limit for driving, according to the affidavit. His 24-year-old brother, Kulbir, and Sousa also had alcohol in their blood but within the legal limit, Matthews wrote.
All three also had marijuana in their systems, Matthews said. Kulbir Dhaliwal told police that the three had smoked pot and each had "a couple shots of vodka" before leaving San Jose for the zoo on Christmas Day, the affidavit said.
Police found a small amount of marijuana in Kulbir Dhaliwal's 2002 BMW, which the victims rode to the zoo, as well as a partially filled bottle of vodka, according to court documents.
Investigators also recovered messages and images from the cell phones, but apparently nothing incriminating in connection with the tiger attack, the Chronicle reported.
Zoo spokesman Sam Singer said he had not seen the documents but believed the victims did taunt the animal, even though they claim they hadn't.
"Those brothers painted a completely different picture to the public and the press," Singer said. "Now it's starting to come out that what they said is not true." -
I wouldn't say they got what they deserved, but as the saying goes, if you play with fire you're going to get burned.
I know early reports had mentioned a sling shot. I wonder if that also played a factor. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned. High, Drunk and admitted driving there that way. The "victims" should be placed in jail.My Home Theater (WIP):
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High, Drunk and admitted driving there that way. The "victims" should be placed in jail.
Not to mention having to pay for the mess THEY created. However, you know what's going to happen? They will end up getting big money because the wall wasn't as high as it was suppose to be. :rolleyes:Political Correctness'.........defined
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Not to mention having to pay for the mess THEY created. However, you know what's going to happen? They will end up getting big money because the wall wasn't as high as it was suppose to be. :rolleyes:
Well, the wall is 4 feet shorter than the recommended minimum. It was above the absolute minimum, so hopefully the zoo wont get in too much trouble, however the recommended should probably become mandatory...
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I had a siamese cat a decade ago. It was a tiney cat - weighed about 6 Lbs. I watched that cat jump vertically from the carpet to the top of a 7 foot (swinging) door many times (landing on all four paws). It was a amazing just how high that little cat could naturally leap (straight up). The cat could always be found on the highest perch in any room.... on top of Fridge, on overhead ledges, on the fireplace mantle, etc.
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Man I would have loved to have seen the look on that kids face when the cat got him.
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Judging by their past behavior, I'd have to say they deserved what they got from the tiger. I could even say it's too bad the tiger didn't finish them off. Up standing citizens that they are. :rolleyes:Political Correctness'.........defined
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A couple of spoiled, lazy, POS's that should've been grateful to survive the attack.
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too bad they killed the cat, huh?
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too bad they killed the cat, huh?
Yup! They killed the wrong ANIMAL:mad:
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Not to sound harsh but maybe he needed that Tiger bite in the ****. Some never learn.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Karma baby, Karma!Political Correctness'.........defined
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So this thing happened in Dec 2007. Has it been determined yet on how it got out?____________________
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It jumped out after being taunted. It was in the original articles...So this thing happened in Dec 2007. Has it been determined yet on how it got out? -
I didn't read the articles in detail, but I thought there was discussion in this thread about the Zoo keepers not knowing how the cat got out, and speculations about the method the cat used (such as using the leg of one of the boys, or doing a hop along a wall then up (like a home cat).____________________
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Those tiger-taunting brothers are arrested again.
From the San Francisco Chronicle....(08-06) 08:56 PDT SAN MATEO -- The two San Jose brothers who survived a Christmas Day 2007 tiger attack at the San Francisco Zoo were arrested in San Mateo for misdemeanor violations after a traffic stop, the latest in a series of run-ins with the law, authorities said today.
The brothers recently split what remained of a $900,000 settlement the zoo paid them in connection with the attack. Their arrests come two weeks after the older sibling, Kulbir Dhaliwal, 25, was booked on suspicion of felony cocaine possession after being stopped near San Jose State University.
The latest incident happened Wednesday when a San Mateo police officer stopped Dhaliwal for driving on a shoulder on-ramp to Highway 101 near Peninsula Avenue, said Steve Wagstaffe, San Mateo County's chief deputy district attorney. Dhaliwal's passenger was his brother, Amritpal "Paul" Dhaliwal, 21.
The officer smelled the odor of marijuana in the car and saw an open bottle of Grey Goose vodka inside, Wagstaffe said.
Kulbir Dhaliwal failed a series of field-sobriety tests and had a blood-alcohol level of .10 percent, authorities said. The level that constitutes drunken driving is 0.08 percent. When the officer asked Amritpal Dhaliwal for his identification, he lied and said he was Tarlok Dhaliwal, his 26-year-old brother who had also been arrested in the incident near San Jose State, authorities said.
Kulbir Dhaliwal, meanwhile, "joined in the lie" and also said his passenger was Tarlok Dhaliwal, Wagstaffe said.
Police eventually obtained the proper identification and learned that Amritpal Dhaliwal was on parole and was trying to hide his identity, Wagstaffe said.
Later Wednesday, Amritpal Dhaliwal was charged with providing false identification, a misdemeanor and was taken to San Mateo County Jail because of his parole status. Kulbir Dhaliwal was charged with misdemeanor drunken driving and was released on his own recognizance.
On July 22, Kulbir Dhaliwal was arrested on suspicion of possessing about 3 grams of cocaine after a car he was riding in was pulled over while heading the wrong way on a street next to the San Jose State campus, police said. Kulbir Dhaliwal had to be held down in the incident near campus for authorities to take a blood sample.
During the same car stop, His brother, Tarlok Dhaliwal, was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.
At the time of the tiger attack, both Kulbir and Amritpal Dhaliwal were facing charges of public intoxication and resisting arrest after a Sept. 7, 2007, scuffle with San Jose police during which Kulbir Dhaliwal had to be put in restraints. They were later convicted.
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And I'd bet we'll hear more of their (mis)adventures in the future :rolleyes:
