Cable burn-in: truth or myth

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    nms,

    well we all have to deal with what we have for rooms. Glad to see you are joining the fray. Welcome.

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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited December 2007
    hypertone wrote: »
    Would you mind scraping off that white buildup and sending it to me? ;)

    No, I would not scrap it, but if you NEED it I can send it to you.
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  • vonnie123
    vonnie123 Posts: 326
    edited December 2007
    Here's an interesting concept.


    http://www.hagtech.com/frybaby.html
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2007
    vonnie123 wrote:
    Here's an interesting concept.


    http://www.hagtech.com/frybaby.html

    Nothing new...they've been around for awhile. Here is the "Cable Cooker":

    http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0404/audioharma.htm
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2007
    I have a very difficult time believing cable burn in. Electronics.....um..maybe. Speakers for sure but cables??? I can't buy into it.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2007
    We just made it all up...
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2007
    shack wrote: »
    We just made it all up...
    You're mean. :D

    I'm still on the fence. I'm not denying it, but I haven't noticed it yet either.
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  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited December 2007
    The possibility of a placebo effect is a bit high on this one in my opinion.:confused:
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    I have a very difficult time believing cable burn in. Electronics.....um..maybe. Speakers for sure but cables??? I can't buy into it.



    Wha...wha..wwhat ...??!!


    Et Tu Wing ?



    spaeker, and electronics, but not cables ?



    oh, yes....cables too......


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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    All of the MIT cables I have purchased have sounded better after they were used for a while. Just little things with the bass and treble on certain tracks. Anyway I have heard enough to believe the burn-in for cables is not a myth by any means.

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  • wout
    wout Posts: 64
    edited December 2007
    What happens in the cables is that the molecules align themselves with the flow of the electrons that pass through. So over time the more those molecules align with the flow the better the flow. If you were to reverse your cables after playing them for a while the flow would be hampered by these molecules that are aligned the wrong way. So keep your cables aligned properly and yes of course you have to burn in your cables, just like your speakers and your equipment as well. Also, never ever let your system sit idle for long periods of time because you will have to burn it in all over again. Just like you can't let a car sit in the garage over the whole winter and expect it to just start up. If you just bought that there is a bridge for sale, then again you are entitled to believe whatever you want. This is free country (was).
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2007
    To the extent of having to burn in cables depends a lot on cable design, and components used. If you have a real high res system you will notice burn in more prevalent. Of the cables that I have built the stranded cables take longer to burn in than the solid ones. I use solid silver, or silver plated cooper with Teflon for all cables. My braided solid conductor IC's don't take long to see an improvement. The stranded Star Quad types take a long time to burn in.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2007
    Carry on.
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  • jwhitakr
    jwhitakr Posts: 568
    edited December 2007
    wout wrote: »
    ... If you just bought that there is a bridge for sale, then again you are entitled to believe whatever you want. This is free country (was).
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. You do realise that the audio signal is AC right? The signal flows BOTH directions. They constantly change direction on their own.

    While wout's sentence structure wasn't the best, at the end of his paragraph he did point out that he had a bridge for sale. I believe he was using that to point out his sarcasm.

    :rolleyes:
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2007
    jwhitakr wrote: »
    While wout's sentence structure wasn't the best, at the end of his paragraph he did point out that he had a bridge for sale. I believe he was using that to point out his sarcasm.

    :rolleyes:

    You're right, I had to read that sentence a couple of times to make sense of it. Sorry.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    who care's?????

    Ed Zachery.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited December 2007
    My cables can beat up your cables and that's a fact, Jack. :D
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2007
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2007
    danger boy wrote: »
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    What are you trying to say:D
    Love it!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited December 2007
    Cable burn-in, just like anything that eletrons flow through to reproduce sound need to burn-in. Everything from the dielectric to solder needs to get with the flow.

    If you don't believe it, bully for you, but if you have any kind of high resolution gear, you will hear a big change once the cables have burned in.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited December 2007
    It really does depend on the cables and gear. I have heard subtle differences on cables from Signal and quite noticeable differences on MIT.
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  • Sevenpointone
    Sevenpointone Posts: 12
    edited December 2007
    Myth- in 50 hours of 200 watt amp usage, your amp changes more than any quality speaker wire.
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