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The Subaru Impreza is a great choice in my opinion. They are great vehicles, last forever, and get very good gas mileage.
25mpg is nice, but I wish they got even better gas mileage.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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+1 for Subaru. I had an Outback for a few years and it was outstanding in the snow. F1 is right though, once you hit the ice, all bets are off. Unless you have chains, you're probably heading for the ditch.
Who knows? Maybe someday "they" will make tires with studs that come out with the push of a button.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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+1 to Audi. Loving mine so far. Can't wait for a good, fresh snowy day2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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The Subaru Impreza is a great choice in my opinion. They are great vehicles, last forever, and get very good gas mileage.
I wonder why no one has mentioned Chevy, Toyota, Jeep, or Honda. What's up with that? Before asking here I'd heard that Toyota and Honda made real good ones too.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Wouldn't 0% financing mean a loan where the dealer makes no money other than just the sale of the car? If so I'm guessing there's not many dealers that do that.
Yes for the second question. Normally the dealers get a kick back [on top of the 3% holdback] and the 0% is an option usually backed by the manufacturer. During this time of year should be a good time to find it. However, keep in mind the dealerships will try to push you into a car that has been on the lot a while, new but maybe a year old [prior year's model] or even a demonstrator model. Keep insisting you want new, or a SEVERE discount off the old inventory.
If the salesman tells you it's only good for last year's model, turn and walk away to another dealership and insist that you are looking for THIS year's model only and nothing less....saying NOTHING about financing. Once the deal for numbers on the purchase of the car you choose have been met, hit them up then and only then [NOT BEFORE] that you want the 0% financing for that car.
It may take some time and frustration, but look at it this way. If you consider it a part time job, with the $$$ you will save and not have to earn, if you will, it could put multiple thousands back into your pocket through the $$$ that you don't give to the dealership. You have them by the balls since you have cash, not the other way around.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Looks like I'll have to check out Subaru. I would never have thought about them until I read the replies here.
I wonder why no one has mentioned Chevy, Toyota, Jeep, or Honda. What's up with that? Before asking here I'd heard that Toyota and Honda made real good ones too.
I can't speak to the Honda and Toyota offerings, but I'm not aware of any AWD vehicles from Chevy. They of course have 4WD equipped vehicle, but you can forget gas mileage with them. Basically the same thing with Jeep, I would say.George Grand wrote: »
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Looks like I'll have to check out Subaru. I would never have thought about them until I read the replies here.
I wonder why no one has mentioned Chevy, Toyota, Jeep, or Honda. What's up with that? Before asking here I'd heard that Toyota and Honda made real good ones too.
I was wondering that too, I asked about Jeep a while ago and it seems that (from what I learneed here) although Jeeps are great vehicles, they are better suited for off-road use and overkill for daily driving.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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I drive a Honda CRV and it's been fantastic. Does great in snow, loads of room, good gas mileage and good acceleration. It's really worth considering."Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then." Bob Seger
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I was out driving several of Ford's newer lineup yesterday and I was most impressed with the Fusion AWD V6 SEL. It was very quiet, had more than enough power, and handles well byond my expectations. While the new Taurus AWD SEL I drove was very nice, too, I thought the Fusion felt a tad more refined. Had all the amenities and a kick **** factory stereo. I'd seriously consider it if I were in the market for that type of auto.
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I was wondering that too, I asked about Jeep a while ago and it seems that (from what I learneed here) although Jeeps are great vehicles, they are better suited for off-road use and overkill for daily driving.
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Nobody does 4WD better than Jeep. And, what is wrong with overkill?
That's what a lot of Polkies said in my "Jeeps" thread...polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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MillerLiteScott wrote: »Call Martin or Sheila. Problem solved.:D
Scott:
Thanks bud, best joke I've heard in a while. I needed a laugh!
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The Subaru Impreza is a great choice in my opinion. They are great vehicles, last forever, and get very good gas mileage.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Yes, for the first question. Only the finance department looses the big bucks [separate department from the sales floor].
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It may take some time and frustration, but look at it this way. If you consider it a part time job, with the $$$ you will save and not have to earn, if you will, it could put multiple thousands back into your pocket through the $$$ that you don't give to the dealership. You have them by the balls since you have cash, not the other way around.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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audiobliss wrote: »I can't speak to the Honda and Toyota offerings, but I'm not aware of any AWD vehicles from Chevy. They of course have 4WD equipped vehicle, but you can forget gas mileage with them. Basically the same thing with Jeep, I would say.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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BottomFeeder wrote: »I drive a Honda CRV and it's been fantastic. Does great in snow, loads of room, good gas mileage and good acceleration. It's really worth considering.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Thanks bud, best joke I've heard in a while. I needed a laugh!
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I give up... What does steering wheels turns (lock to lock) mean?
I was told not to consider Ford because the bodies rust out to fast. I'm not looking to start a debate or a fight here but I am curious whether it's true or not.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Lock to lock for the steering wheel is how many times you have to physically turn the steering wheel to go from turned all the way right to all the way left (or, 'lock to lock').George Grand wrote: »
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I laughed harder when I tried to call them! No answer. I guess they are trying to figure out how to tax us with the amount of snow each one of us will get when it comes.
HA HA, Snow-Tax. I wouldn't bet against that!
Martin was probably too busy patting himself on the back for coming up with the Slots idea. :rolleyes:
Shelia is still trying to figure out how the hell she got elected.
Good luck with the vehicle purchase. I bought my Explorer in Feb '04 and have been hoping for a big snow ever since to go crunching through it in 4WD. Coming up for 4 years later and still waiting for the snow...No excuses! -
Wouldn't 0% financing mean a loan where the dealer makes no money other than just the sale of the car?
Actually, 0% financing is from the manufacturer (GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc). What they do is pay a flat-fee to the finance company to provide the 0% incentive to the customer. In all reality, its like an internal rebate to GMAC for servicing the loan.
GMAC wins big time. They get all the interest right up front in one big payment from GM. The GMAC's, Ford Credit, Chryseler Credit, are most profitable when financing at 0% - sort of like a big cash infusion from the OEM's. -
Zero % interest is in lieu of the rebates. Ford will give the rebates to Ford Motor Credit. Same with GM and GMAC....Chrysler with Chrysler credit. Unless you plan on keeping the car for the full contract, it doesn't always pay to give up, what can be up to $5k or more on certain models, rebates. If you decide to trade that car off in say...2 years, you'll owe quite a bit more than if you would have taken the cash back instead of the 0%."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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audiobliss wrote: »Lock to lock for the steering wheel is how many times you have to physically turn the steering wheel to go from turned all the way right to all the way left (or, 'lock to lock').Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Strong Bad wrote: »HA HA, Snow-Tax. I wouldn't bet against that!
Oh great! I hope they don't read this forum. I might have just given them a new idea!Martin was probably too busy patting himself on the back for coming up with the Slots idea. :rolleyes:
Shelia is still trying to figure out how the hell she got elected.Good luck with the vehicle purchase. I bought my Explorer in Feb '04 and have been hoping for a big snow ever since to go crunching through it in 4WD. Coming up for 4 years later and still waiting for the snow...Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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Nobody does 4WD better than Jeep. And, what is wrong with overkill?
Nothing's wrong with overkill, that's why my '74 Land Cruiser continued to climb hills, slop thru mud and river ride long after the Jeep boys had to quit.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Nothing's wrong with overkill, that's why my '74 Land Cruiser continued to climb hills, slop thru mud and river ride long after the Jeep boys had to quit.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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San, Here ia a forum with loads of info http://rav4world.com I have an 07 that I got early spring so not much info on how it is going to handle the snow. We had one small (about 3") of snow/slush that at one point had all the warning bells and lights go off, but it was nothing that I think deserved the AWD to kick in. What I can tell you is: the V6 has lots of good fun to drive/get you out of trouble power. Not race performance but you can merge into heavy traffic with ease. Not sure of the 4 cyl. performance wise. On all highway driving with 3 adults, baby, car seat, and luggage I have done 29 mpg. My daily driving gives me 23 - 25 mpg with the V6. I can also say if you do a lot of city driving the mpg will drop drastically with the 6. The 4 is only rated a little better in the mpg but should see the best city results. As far as ground clearance, you become the plow when it's over your bumper. As long as the snow is not to0 heavy so that it packs under you enough that you plane up on top of it and get hung with your tires off the ground. I have driven 1/2 ton 4 WD PU trucks with more ground clearance and had to plow snow a few times to get home. If I was home I probably would have stayed home. BTW the 4WD, AWD sometimes gets confused on these. You can lock it into 4WD up to about 25 mph. After that it will kick out and just be AWD controlled by the computer with the front wheels the prim. drive and when needed the rear wheels. I think it's a 60% front 40% rear power distribution. I have no big complaints with the car, it actually has lots more room than it looks like from the outside. The Sub. and Honda also deserve a look. Can't say as to the GM and Fords they were not out when I was looking. Just like with audio, decide what you MUST have then do the research, there's lots of info out there. You might also want to try Kelly Blue Book and Edmounds. What's the big deal with 4WD I thought when a couple inches of snow fell down that way everything shut down and there was no place to go even if you could get there. lol and good luck with your new car.
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BottomFeeder wrote: »I drive a Honda CRV and it's been fantastic. Does great in snow, loads of room, good gas mileage and good acceleration. It's really worth considering.
With my 4 cyl. Cavalier, if I have four people in it, it doesn't have the power I feel safe with on a freeway if I need that extra speed all of a sudden.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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San, Here ia a forum with loads of info http://rav4world.com
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Just like with audio, decide what you MUST have then do the research, there's lots of info out there. You might also want to try Kelly Blue Book and Edmounds. What's the big deal with 4WD I thought when a couple inches of snow fell down that way everything shut down and there was no place to go even if you could get there. lol and good luck with your new car.
Whew! Lots of info to understand here. Thanks. I'm doing a lot of "internet homework"/research on this! Part of that is asking question here. Due to new job responsibilities, the place I need to respond to are always open.
It's ground clearance is only 7.5". What's the highest amount of fresh falling snow (wet or dry) have you been able to "safely" handle it in?
So far the 4Runner SR5 line is what I'm looking for. Thanks to our new governor our "new car tax" will go up Jan 1st. New cars will cost $700.00 to $900.00 more than they will Dec. 31st. I hope I can have the money in place by then to get whatever I'm going to end up with.Be gentle, I'm new to all this...
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