PC Gaming WoW..

Demiurge

That's pretty much it.

If you were a single guy without kids I would still be urging you to do something else than play WoW. With kids it's even worse because they'll start battling with you to be able to play when you want them to do something else.

I'm not saying people can't pull it off. 9 Million people play that game. When I came back I joined up with some old friends and we raided (where you get the armor/weapons from) 3 nights a week, which made it managable. However, gear and weapons in game have repair costs associated with them and that means you have to "farm" (read: waste time mindlessly killing crap, which equals sheer boredom that feels like work) for money and materials in order to make potions and stuff. It easily turns 3 nights a week into around 5.

If you don't devote that kind of time to the game you end up falling way behind.

I enjoy life so much more when I can leave work at 4:30, go home, and do whatever I want. I don't have to worry about logging on to my second job when I feel like I would rather watch TV or go out for a drink with a buddy.

jakelm

Refefer wrote: »

If you like HD graphics, hook the PC up to your TV. I use a 26" TV right now and it looks very nice.

Nentendo looking graphics? Ha, PC graphics will always be better than a console's- that's what you're buying when you shell out as much dough as you need for a gaming pc.

Guild wars has far less grinding than WoW does. It's certainly worth the price and no monthly fees makes it very nice.

I could, my Mit has DVI and VGA. 1080i.... Hmmmmm

MKZ

jakelm wrote: »

Raptor is over budget...ah well.

WD 160gb 7200 SATA should work ok.

Like this

That's looks good for me.

Refefer

jakelm wrote: »

I could, my Mit has DVI and VGA. 1080i.... Hmmmmm

It's the best way to roll. I run mine at 1080i via DVI and it's GORGEOUS. Not only that, but when you turn on Anti-aliasing, it looks even better.

jakelm

Demiurge wrote: »

That's pretty much it.

If you were a single guy without kids I would still be urging you to do something else than play WoW. With kids it's even worse because they'll start battling with you to be able to play when you want them to do something else.

I'm not saying people can't pull it off. 9 Million people play that game. When I came back I joined up with some old friends and we raided (where you get the armor/weapons from) 3 nights a week, which made it managable. However, gear and weapons in game have repair costs associated with them and that means you have to "farm" (read: waste time mindlessly killing crap, which equals sheer boredom that feels like work) for money and materials in order to make potions and stuff. It easily turns 3 nights a week into around 5.

If you don't devote that kind of time to the game you end up falling way behind.

I enjoy life so much more when I can leave work at 4:30, go home, and do whatever I want. I don't have to worry about logging on to my second job when I feel like I would rather watch TV or go out for a drink with a buddy.

I see your point. Falling behind, then never staying with the same group because they have past you in level ups. Then end up not spending enough time on it to get a decent distance in the game. A game crackhead's nightmare. Never getting to a point to where you say "ahhh... I've made it, now I can go to bed"

And you say the game never ends? You cant beat it?

jakelm

Refefer wrote: »

It's the best way to roll. I run mine at 1080i via DVI and it's GORGEOUS. Not only that, but when you turn on Anti-aliasing, it looks even better.

I'm running out of connections now....lol...

XA1 has DVI duty.

360 has component 1

cable has component 2

xbox has component 3

VGA is only 480p

Guess I need to buy a component switch.. And get DVI to component adapter

Refefer

jakelm wrote: »

I see your point. Falling behind, then never staying with the same group because they have past you in level ups. Then end up not spending enough time on it to get a decent distance in the game. A game crackhead's nightmare. Never getting to a point to where you say "ahhh... I've made it, now I can go to bed"

And you say the game never ends? You cant beat it?

After you get to level 70, there's the acquiring of End Game equipment. That alone will take you thousands of hours since you need to do a huge number of very lengthy raids, which require huge groups of people to succeed. Not only do you need to be active nightly to go on these raids, but most of them take huge amounts of time AND you have to complete them at one time. Usually, they're in the vicinity of 4 hours in length.

It's very, very, very time consuming and you need to be part of a big guild otherwise you won't have a sufficient number of people with high enough levels to do be able to do it. To get into an End Game guild, you need to be very active or you'll get the boot.

It's a vicious cycle. Don't forget the $120 for a year's subscription.

Demiurge

jakelm wrote: »

I see your point. Falling behind, then never staying with the same group because they have past you in level ups. Then end up not spending enough time on it to get a decent distance in the game. A game crackhead's nightmare. Never getting to a point to where you say "ahhh... I've made it, now I can go to bed"

And you say the game never ends? You cant beat it?

It's a pretty competitive game. The best gear comes from doing raids. Raids require 24 other people including yourself. Depending on your class, you could have 4-5 other people of that 24 competing with you for the gear and weapons that drop. That means you could have to go into these places hundreds of time before you get the gear you want.

Then, by the time you are all decked out an expansion or patch will be released and you'll be back to square 1 with everyone else.

...and no, the game never ends. You can't beat it. The game ends when Blizzard stops releasing expansion packs and content patches for the game. I don't know how old you are, but that could be 10 years of your life down the drain. Then what? Was it worth it?

Definitely not.

MKZ

Refefer wrote: »

It's the best way to roll. I run mine at 1080i via DVI and it's GORGEOUS. Not only that, but when you turn on Anti-aliasing, it looks even better.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50838&page=16
I found that on clubhouse, good deal.

jakelm

Demiurge wrote: »

It's a pretty competitive game. The best gear comes from doing raids. Raids require 24 other people including yourself. Depending on your class, you could have 4-5 other people of that 24 competing with you for the gear and weapons that drop. That means you could have to go into these places hundreds of time before you get the gear you want.

Then, by the time you are all decked out an expansion or patch will be released and you'll be back to square 1 with everyone else.

...and no, the game never ends. You can't beat it. The game ends when Blizzard stops releasing expansion packs and content patches for the game. I don't know how old you are, but that could be 10 years of your life down the drain. Then what? Was it worth it?

Definitely not.

I'm 32 and do not have 10 years to spend on a game...lol

jakelm

Just watched the trailer to Guild Wars (GW for short) , that looks about what I'm looking for. Very interesting game after reading the synopsis.

Is there a LOTR or Dudeons and Dragons online game? Or any other mystical games out there, (that are worth playing)?

jakelm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814145148

This card should be conciderable upgrade from the Geforce 5500 I have now. And its HDCP compliant.

Or would this Biostar OPEN BOX be better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141061R

MKZ

jakelm wrote: »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814145148

This card should be conciderable upgrade from the Geforce 5500 I have now. And its HDCP compliant.

Or would this Biostar OPEN BOX be better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141061R

I would go with 8500GT.
Compare the memory.

GeForce 8500GT Memory
Memory Clock 800MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 128-bit
Memory Type GDDR2

GeForce 8400GS Memory
Memory Clock 533MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 64-bit
Memory Type GDDR2

jakelm

Ok. Now what about the audio of these games?

I have digital out. Are any of these games in DD or surround of any kind?

MKZ

jakelm wrote: »

Ok. Now what about the audio of these games?

I have digital out. Are any of these games in DD or surround of any kind?

I use Sennheiser closed headphones, try not to bother others.

Refefer

jakelm wrote: »

Ok. Now what about the audio of these games?

I have digital out. Are any of these games in DD or surround of any kind?

All PC games since 2001 have surround sound. I've always used analog outs for it though, so I don't know how much I can add.

jakelm

MKZ wrote: »

I use Sennheiser closed headphones, try not to bother others.

Screw dat.... If I'm going to be up bettering my self at a game..SO WILL EVERYONE ELSE....MMMUUAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA:p


...actually, since I cant afford a divorce YET , I think good headphone are a great idea...

michael_w

Pretty much the same experience here too. I played for a year or two focusing on my lvl 60 undead priest. It never really got boring but I just got tired of spending soooo much time on the game. To accomplish anything at that level meant that I had to spend 5 to 12 hours in ONE CHUNK with about 39 other people and as a healer, if I bailed the group was screwed. The countless all nighters and runs until 6am didn't sit well after a while. I don't regret playing and it was a ton of fun, but just be aware of the time commitment after you start to get higher and higher level.

BTW, I played on an amd sempron 2600+ (1.83ghz), 512mb, integrated graphics.... Healing a group of 40 at anywhere between 0.5 to 8fps is tough at times but I got used to it and was actually fairly good (very rarely died from other players).

audiobliss

I use Sennheisers for gaming, too. Love 'em!

jakelm

michael_w wrote: »

Pretty much the same experience here too. I played for a year or two focusing on my lvl 60 undead priest. It never really got boring but I just got tired of spending soooo much time on the game. To accomplish anything at that level meant that I had to spend 5 to 12 hours in ONE CHUNK with about 39 other people and as a healer, if I bailed the group was screwed. The countless all nighters and runs until 6am didn't sit well after a while. I don't regret playing and it was a ton of fun, but just be aware of the time commitment after you start to get higher and higher level.

BTW, I played on an amd sempron 2600+ (1.83ghz), 512mb, integrated graphics.... Healing a group of 40 at anywhere between 0.5 to 8fps is tough at times but I got used to it and was actually fairly good (very rarely died from other players).

Thanks Micheal. No offence, but thats a much less powerfull PC than what I have. And you say you had no problems? No delays are freezes?

Refefer

Grab the Sennheiser 280HDs. They are closed headphones and are driven by weak sound cards very well.

jakelm

audiobliss wrote: »

I use Sennheisers for gaming, too. Love 'em!

Well if I hook it up to the big screen , I would like to use the HT also.. Thats why I was asking about Dolby Digital.

BaggedLancer

Stay far, far, far away from WoW.....that game consumes your life, breaks marriages, causes you lose friends....and more.....

Systems

jakelm wrote: »

Hmmmm...Guild Wars? Sounds like a branch of WoW. I wish they had a good Dugeons and Dragons MMORPG.

I am spoiled to HD 360. It might be hard to go back to "Nentendo" looking graphics

I ran and designed a persistent world module in Never Winter Nights 1 for over 4 years. I had 3 mirrors around the country. We served over 200000 players in that time. I took in over $10000 in donations to continually beef up the main server (which was in my house). God, I think I know just about every statistic that one could know about D&D after that epic adventure. It was the 2nd module put in the hall of fame by IGN early on.

That game is about as good as it has gotten for D&D so far.

Systems

BaggedLancer wrote: »

Stay far, far, far away from WoW.....that game consumes your life, breaks marriages, causes you lose friends....and more.....

Just say the truth

Installing Wow on your computer is like taking that first hit of crack

BaggedLancer

Silverti wrote: »

Just say the truth

Installing Wow on your computer is like taking that first hit of crack

haha, just saw this now...talk about the truth.....

I remember when I started playing Everquest when it first came out.....when I quit only 3 and a half years later I had 580 days played on the counter

EDIT: I forgot to mention, that was my SECOND account, I ebayed my first one...a halfling rogue named Stabbed

For WoW....i probably had over a year played since i played 7 days a week in the best group on the server.....was a dwarf rogue named Mohammad.....durka durka

Sami

jakelm wrote: »

Thanks Micheal. No offence, but thats a much less powerfull PC than what I have. And you say you had no problems? No delays are freezes?

WOW doesn't require a powerful computer to run it. If you want a RPG with nice graphics, Oblivion, although it's not a multi player game.

I played WOW for a while but for me it wasn't worth it. Never had the time it requires to play so I sticked to my FPS and strategy games.

Systems

I saw this stuff starting back in EQ and was even thinking back then that even by now there would some serious social things in place by now to treat games addiction seriously. I still believe that in 10 years game addiction clinics will be around as much as AA.

I've seen some serious **** in Wow... seriously crazy people who spend 24 hours a day for a week playing then thing. I don’t even know how they sleep.

Worse thing I ever did was in EQ where I camped an item for 36 hours strait.

BaggedLancer

Silverti wrote: »

I saw this stuff starting back in EQ and was even thinking back then that even by now there would some serious social things in place by now to treat games addiction seriously. I still believe that in 10 years game addiction clinics will be around as much as AA.

I've seen some serious **** in Wow... seriously crazy people who spend 24 hours a day for a week playing then thing. I don’t even know how they sleep.

Worse thing I ever did was in EQ where I camped an item for 36 hours strait.

My addiction to EQ was worse, we were basically "on call"(other members had phone numbers to call us) when certain things spawned? What server did you play on? I was on Veeshan in FoH when I quit....a member for about a week and couldn't take it anymroe...(you aren't a true EQer if you don't know that guild )

Systems

BaggedLancer wrote: »

My addiction to EQ was worse, we were basically "on call"(other members had phone numbers to call us) when certain things spawned? What server did you play on? I was on Veeshan in FoH when I quit....a member for about a week and couldn't take it anymroe...(you aren't a true EQer if you don't know that guild )

I started in 97 with the beta 1 test of Ultima online and played that until EQ came out. This came out in my senior year of college and there’s no way I would have graduated if it had come out a year earlier.

I only played EQ for the first year and got out about a month or so after the first upgrade. I had a lvl 50 magician with the full "hate" gear and then I took him to lvl 57 (with a lvl 40+.. hell.. what was that class that cast SOW?). I sold the account on ebay for $1000. IT was on the biggest server at the time.


I moved to DAOC and played for a lil over a year and sold that account for $1000.

Then I went back to Ultima Online for a year and sold my accounts for another $1000.