AQ CV-6 Speaker cable..better than....?

beardog03
beardog03 Posts: 5,550
edited November 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
Is the cv-6 cable better than the AQ Bedrock ?
AudioAdvisor has them on sale, and I was thinking of trying them, but if my bedrocks are the same or better, then why waiste the grip...


any thoughts ?
Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2007
    I replaced the AQ Bedrocks with CV-8's w/ 72v DBS, and the Bedrocks were like 99% as good as the CV-8's.

    I think you'd have to move to another brand to get a significant improvement.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited October 2007
    Nooooooooooooooooo! Don't start this again :( Nothing makes a difference. It all sounds the same ;)
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited October 2007
    Come on, knock it off. Legit question with a legit qualified answer. This is an audio board.

    That said. Question answered. End of thread. [Yeah right.] :rolleyes:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    Thanks Early B.

    I was thinking that I would have to go way up the cable food chain to get any kind of noticeable improvement...just thought I`d ask..


    This isn`t a debate, just a question for those that know...;)

    :D
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited October 2007
    I say keep your Bedrocks, especially since a lot of your stuff seems to be committing suicide lately. :D j/k

    I seem to find that with wire, it is the differences in the type of metals and how they are stranded that appears to "tune" the music one way or the other. Solid copper sounds different than multistrand, gauges - thinner usaully more impactive on higher freq. etc. Now most are not night/day difference. But the good gear can pull thru the subtle differences. YMMV.
    Venom
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited October 2007
    beardog03 wrote:
    This isn`t a debate, just a question for those that know...
    ...and for those that don't know they don't know, how will they ever know?....unless they try and then they will know what they didn't know was not knowing what they didn't know was not knowing what they didn't know.

    I know and I don't know how I didn't know before I knew what I know now. ;)
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2007
    I didn't know that I didn't know what I do know now which is way more than what I knew before what I know now.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    No. I would stick with what you have currently.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    thanks Mark...

    solid advise
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2007
    What came first the Chicken or the Egg?


    Good Cable or Good Ear?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • couch21
    couch21 Posts: 13
    edited October 2007
    Here's a thought - why do you feel the urge to upgrade? Just because you see cables on sale or because you really sense the limitation of your current setup?
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  • couch21
    couch21 Posts: 13
    edited October 2007
    No point in upgraditis if you can't point out the current flaws in your set, especially with something as miniscule as speaker cables. I'd rather upgrade the electronics or speakers if I felt my system was lacking.
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  • couch21
    couch21 Posts: 13
    edited October 2007
    BTW, I did an A/B comparison of the AQ Rocket 33 bi-wire and the CV-6s and I preferred the 33's. Not sure how the Rockets compare to the Bedrocks you currently have, but I'm glad I didn't spend more money for diminishing returns.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited October 2007
    I believe your spider senses are correct Keiko......I feel the energy again....
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    ....not feeling anything...just curious about the dbs cables....my setup is not lacking , and I feel no urges....

    I know what I have and like what I hear...

    But I`m not complacant about audio just because it`s convenient
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    for the newbies, let me enlighten you a bit as to where I`m at in my hobby...

    I am very happy with what I have, and will not be getting much "better" sound or "quality at this price point....and I`m good with that.....not looking for it

    just like rolling tubes, just like the two different cdp`s that I have....one is not "better" than the other, but it is different, and very enjoyable to listen to in different configurations, and sounds that one gets from swapping cdp`s, cables, or tubes, etc...


    Now I do not mean to jump on a newbie, but I feel the three posts to not say anything constructive is a little much...if you have an opinion, by all means voice it..




    If you ever get curious about something, maybe you will ask opinions from those you feel are your peers, and make an enlightened decision......after you have takin the advise and made up you own "open" mind.....maybe not.....but I enjoy swapping gear, cables , and tubes...have for a LONG TIME, AND WILL FOR A LONG TIME....




    look I`m late for work , it`s very early in the morning, and I gotta get rolling..
    need coffee...

    have a great day listening


    I`m out
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited October 2007
    The Bedrock is an already very good cable, just keep it.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited October 2007
    I just picked up some Tara Labs RSC Prime 1000s. I was thinking of trying them against my similarly priced PS Audio XStream Plus cables to see which I prefer, but the Primes are bi-wire, and my thiels aren't. So, I might just hang onto them for when I finally get some good bookies for my bedroom, or if I even upgrade the HT mains.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • larry207
    larry207 Posts: 4
    edited October 2007
    once broken in bedrocks sound as good as most cables costing 3 times there price stay with them great cables!!!!!!!!
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    I am very happy with the bedrocks..!!

    just wanted to hear what you guys thought about the dbs series cables...

    They look interesting

    I think the AQ bedrocks are the best cable for the pricepoint out there...Audio Advisor always has a good deal on on them

    They are definately the best cables I have ever had to date


    I think if I ever change out the speaker cables , it will be with MIT`s to match my I/C`s
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited October 2007
    It would be interesting if those that can make it to the next PF, if they brought the cables. I have the CV-8 SC w/ a 72v upgrade and I am happy. Very happy. It would serve my rig good [and others, maybe] if we could get a direct comparison with the SC's in question as it seems no one has a direct comparison. I'll bring mine.

    Food for thought. I'm as curious as beardog03.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    maybe we can pitch in together and get a pair for the fest !

    or who knows...I have been known to buy stuff just cause it`s a good deal !!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited November 2007
    It's a good question and I have heard just about all Audioquests speaker cables now.
    I own the CV-8's myself and I compared them to the 4's and 6's and found them all to sound almost exactly the same. I also demo'd there 16-4 and 14-2 bulk cl3 wire and even that wire sound about the same.

    Audioquest's cables are excellent. I really dig the fact that they all sound so good. Making the change might get you alittle clearer sound but it's so hard to hear the differences. It's not like going from monstercable to Kimber . It's really like Audioquest got it right in there entry level cables and keep it going all the way up there lines.

    Nothing wrong with getting the higher end cables and trying them out. You can sell the other pair and get some money back.

    Go for it, what do you have to lose??? For the record, I'm completely happy with Audioquest and have no desire to own anything else.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2007
    Bear, I think some Bedrocks and some Avantgarde horns would be nice..........maybe some Manley stuff or VTL........like you said bro, a long long time.

    Not like your not already pushing some quality gear.

    RT1
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    It would be interesting if those that can make it to the next PF, if they brought the cables. I have the CV-8 SC w/ a 72v upgrade and I am happy. Very happy. It would serve my rig good [and others, maybe] if we could get a direct comparison with the SC's in question as it seems no one has a direct comparison. I'll bring mine.

    Food for thought. I'm as curious as beardog03.

    Wire comparisons are Not really my bag for fests.

    RT1
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