PS3 Prices Slashed....
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Sony slashes PS3 price
Japanese gaming company also introduces a cheaper 40-gigabyte model of the high-end video game machine for $399.
October 18 2007: 12:16 PM EDT
NEW YORK (AP) -- Sony on Thursday cut the price of its PlayStation 3 game console in the U.S. and announced an even cheaper model that will arrive before the holiday shopping season.
The top-line PlayStation model, with an 80 gigabyte hard drive, now costs $499, down from $599. That effectively eliminates the lower-end model, which has a 60-gigabyte drive and has sold for $499.
A new low-end model with a 40-gigabyte drive will go on sale Nov. 2 for $399.
Unlike the other PlayStation 3 models, the new one won't be able to play games made for the PlayStation 2. In a statement, Sony (Charts) said this was due to a more extensive lineup of games of the PlayStation 3.
The U.S. launch of the 40-gigabyte model was widely expected, since Sony has already announced it for Japan and Europe. It narrows the price gap with competing game consoles, but the PlayStation is still the most expensive.
Microsoft Corp.'s (Charts, Fortune 500) Xbox 360 costs $350 and Nintendo Corp.'s (Charts) Wii costs $250. The PlayStation 3 has been trailing them both in U.S. sales, and the Wii has been a breakout hit for Nintendo, with more than 9 million units shipped. Sony has sold 5 million PlayStation 3s since they went on sale in November last year.
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This would be the time to buy, IMO!
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Isn't the fact it can't play PS or PS2 games a HUGE drawback, or no?Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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I would say so. That just broke the deal for me. Plus, wasn't it a Sony exec. who said it's illegal to store music on your computer?Isn't the fact it can't play PS or PS2 games a HUGE drawback, or no?"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Isn't the fact it can't play PS or PS2 games a HUGE drawback, or no?
Not to me, but I guess I can see that. I usually don't have much desire to go back and play old games, and if I do, emulators usually pop up for PC play anyways. -
Isn't the fact it can't play PS or PS2 games a HUGE drawback, or no?
That makes the cheaper model totally useless to me. I have a decent supply of PS2 games I still play.
Sony needs to fire all their current execs.
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Isn't the fact it can't play PS or PS2 games a HUGE drawback, or no?
Sony's original plan was supposed to take the ps2 functionality and take it from its current hardware implementation ( Very good ...expensive hardware based chips ran the older stuff) and put the functionality in a software routine ( Ok..not as good but hey , at least it still works ) ....now it seems they are cutting it altogether ? That wont be good.....The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club -
might not be bad. not much of a factor for many people. I got a ps2, so if I want to play a ps2 game, I'll have another tv for it.Living Room 2 Channel -
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80 gig will still do software ps2 emulation. rumors (possibly confirmed now) are that the 80 gig will drop $100 to take the $500 spot.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/10/18/ap4234639.html
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Eh . . . I keep my old games cause they look pretty and for Nostalgia. I sell them unless they were amazing and memorable. I never play them after a new system arrives. Cheaper PS3 is better. Still no good games that make it worth buying.
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shadowofnight wrote: »Sony's original plan was supposed to take the ps2 functionality and take it from its current hardware implementation ( Very good ...expensive hardware based chips ran the older stuff) and put the functionality in a software routine ( Ok..not as good but hey , at least it still works ) ....now it seems they are cutting it altogether ? That wont be good.....
I think there was still some legacy hardware in the ps3 even with software emulation. Looks like they finally pulled it all to drop it to $400.
Sucks that they're making ps2 owners choose between no compatibility or paying 100 bucks more for emulation. I was also hoping that some of the more interesting games would come out before Christmas. So if you're a gamer, you still might want to see what happens in '08. At the very least, you'll be able to take advantage of the after Christmas sales and buy it when the next generation of games comes out.
However, if you're interested in it for multimedia features too, I think it just regained the crown as the cheapest blu-ray player. And with internal DTS-HD MA decoding rumored in a before Christmas firmware update, it just might be one of the most capable blu-ray players as well (also plays SACDs, upconverts DVDs). Then there's the media streaming from a PC or just plunking down another 60 bucks for a 120GB hard drive to store it all on the box.
That's a lot of functionality for only $400, but for only gaming, I think I'd wait to see if deals come out with the next wave of games if you don't see any you like so far IMHO. -
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What I am amazed at is that I had to pay $400 for the Toshiba A30 HD-DVD player. People thump BR for pricing but you don’t even want me to start going off on the difference in pure quality, use and function between a $400 PS3 and a $400 HD-DVD player for no more reason then playing HD media alone.
People should be friggen pounding those $400 PS3's as fast as they can.Testing
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Look on eBay for a first gen PS3 60gb system, they are still out there NIB. It will play the PS,PS2 games. Plus the money you save you can upgrade the HD to 120gb.
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Glad I got mine with the 60gig and PS2 hardware when I did. It was when Sonystyle website was giving $150 off a $499 price if you signed up for that sony style visa card. So paid $350, got free shipping, paid the bill, cancelled the card and I'm done.
I never had a PS2 but being the tightwad I am I sometimes like to buy the PS2 version of the game if there if there is no significant difference (I play mostly sports games). -
I'm quit surprised at the need/desire to play PS2 games. Don't most of you already have a PS2? It's not like it has any real resale value, persay...is it that big of deal to have both systems in your setup?
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I don't have a ps2, but I do have a 360, ps3, and now a wii. I would think having to shoehorn an old system in there would be inconvenient.
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My freind owns a PS3 and he plays all his old PS2 games no problem.HT setup
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I'm quit surprised at the need/desire to play PS2 games. Don't most of you already have a PS2? It's not like it has any real resale value, persay...is it that big of deal to have both systems in your setup?
Demi,
For myself personally I would love to have a PS3 that plays PS2 games for a variety of reasons.
1. My PS2 is about 4yrs old and has issues playing some games, it is on its last legs and I would rather not have to buy a PS3 and PS2. I am sure many are in the same boat with older PS2s that they would like to replace with a PS3.
2. The PS3 is supposed to up convert the games and make them look slightly better then on the PS2. This isn't a big difference but a more powerful machine should cut down on any framerate issues with PS2 games, and also improve the visuals somewhat.
3. Convenience of having one machine. I personally play my PS2 games all the time, currently playing Shadow of the Colossus. I want to play my PS1 games but my PS2 wont play them. It would be annoying to have to bring my PS2 out every time I wanted to play a game, and I don't have the available space or inputs for 4 systems.
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Demi,
For myself personally I would love to have a PS3 that plays PS2 games for a variety of reasons.
1. My PS2 is about 4yrs old and has issues playing some games, it is on its last legs and I would rather not have to buy a PS3 and PS2. I am sure many are in the same boat with older PS2s that they would like to replace with a PS3.
2. The PS3 is supposed to up convert the games and make them look slightly better then on the PS2. This isn't a big difference but a more powerful machine should cut down on any framerate issues with PS2 games, and also improve the visuals somewhat.
3. Convenience of having one machine. I personally play my PS2 games all the time, currently playing Shadow of the Colossus. I want to play my PS1 games but my PS2 wont play them. It would be annoying to have to bring my PS2 out every time I wanted to play a game, and I don't have the available space or inputs for 4 systems.
Jared
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i'm waiting for the PS9 to come out. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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ilikesound wrote: »so the new one wont be backwards compatible? is that certain?
The 80gig will by emulation only. Emulation is not as good!
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Shannon W. wrote: »The 80gig will by emulation only. Emulation is not as good!
Shannon
So basically the only PS3 that will do it all well, has been discontinued. Way to go Sony. It is getting harder and harder staying a Sony fan these days.
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Venom,
Do like I said, go on eBay. You can still find NIB 60gig systems for good prices.
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Shannon W. wrote: »Venom,
Do like I said, go on eBay. You can still find NIB 60gig systems for good prices.
Shannon
Hi Shannon,
I guess the point I was trying to make is that Sony is becoming a has been with the really stupid business moves they have been making, desperation really. I know I can always get a 60 gig somewhere, but why should one have to? The PS3, after a year of being out, and after a prior year of delays, has perhaps 3 decent titles at best. If I wanted to buy one, the entry level price is $400, but I lose backwards compatibility. If I do choose to spend the extra $100, I only get limited Backwards compatibility.
That is crap. Sony should make the $400 system fully compatible. And spend every last $ they have pumping out games, otherwise the PS3 will only be a Blu ray player essentially, and if they lose that front, they are finished.
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So basically the only PS3 that will do it all well, has been discontinued. Way to go Sony. It is getting harder and harder staying a Sony fan these days.
Venom
Simply puts them in the same catagory as the 360. Backwards compatable only through software; and it is title specific software at that. I have an old Xbox, wanted to get a 360 about 2 months ago, but none of the Madden or NCAA football titles had the 360 emulator. PS3 had ps2 hardware, so I went that way and bought the PS2 games for about $5-10 each. -
Simply puts them in the same catagory as the 360. Backwards compatable only through software; and it is title specific software at that. I have an old Xbox, wanted to get a 360 about 2 months ago, but none of the Madden or NCAA football titles had the 360 emulator. PS3 had ps2 hardware, so I went that way and bought the PS2 games for about $5-10 each.
Good thing you got one when you did then. The new 40gb PS3 has ZERO backwards compatibility - not even through software emulation. The original release had the full PS2 hardware on the mainboard, then the first revision had just one of the PS2 chips with the rest being done in software emulation. This new revision removes all PS2 hardware and has no backwards compatibility at all, hardware or software.
One of the Sony PR shills made some asinine statement that for the new price, you could just go buy a 40gb PS3 AND a PS2 instead. Personally, I think the multiple SKUs are going to be confusing for the consumer, as your average Christmas shopper may not be able to tell the difference between the models. They certainly aren't indicating it well on the packaging.Equipment list:
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Demi,
For myself personally I would love to have a PS3 that plays PS2 games for a variety of reasons.
1. My PS2 is about 4yrs old and has issues playing some games, it is on its last legs and I would rather not have to buy a PS3 and PS2. I am sure many are in the same boat with older PS2s that they would like to replace with a PS3.
2. The PS3 is supposed to up convert the games and make them look slightly better then on the PS2. This isn't a big difference but a more powerful machine should cut down on any framerate issues with PS2 games, and also improve the visuals somewhat.
3. Convenience of having one machine. I personally play my PS2 games all the time, currently playing Shadow of the Colossus. I want to play my PS1 games but my PS2 wont play them. It would be annoying to have to bring my PS2 out every time I wanted to play a game, and I don't have the available space or inputs for 4 systems.
Jared
That really doesn't answer my question. The upconversion isn't that significant from what I have seen here at my house. That, and I have no desire to play PS2 games anymore, which is the only side of the argument that makes any sense. If you really want to have old formats (from Nintendo on up), they have port switching devices specifically for gaming that might cost you $10 at most.
You don't even own the PS3, right? If you did, and had a HD display you are probably not going to be playing any of your PS2 games for a lack of time than anything else, just saying..... -
That really doesn't answer my question. The upconversion isn't that significant from what I have seen here at my house. That, and I have no desire to play PS2 games anymore, which is the only side of the argument that makes any sense. If you really want to have old formats (from Nintendo on up), they have port switching devices specifically for gaming that might cost you $10 at most.
You don't even own the PS3, right? If you did, and had a HD display you are probably not going to be playing any of your PS2 games for a lack of time than anything else, just saying.....
Demi,
I gave my point of view and you gave yours. For you playing PS2 games isn't that important, for me it is. I have seen the upconversion and it wasn't huge but in some games it was a nice increase (I borrowed a PS3). I don't want to play all of the older games that I have, but I have a lot of PS2 games I am very fond of.
I don't have a PS3 because for me it has no games. There are only 2 games which I would buy for the PS3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Resistance. Those will not last that long and if I couldn't play my PS2 games it would be pointless for me to own now.
I guess the point is that some people are very fond of their PS2 games and no matter what comes down the pike they still want the ability to play them. Backwards compatibility was always a big thing for me, and was always the big thing PS3 had over 360 (360 is b/c but limited)
