Carver Silver Seven t amplifiers

shadowofnight
shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
edited April 2010 in Electronics
I went to a craigslist sellers house tonight to pick up another pair of SRS's...absolutely gorgeous pair...to complement the pair I got last week :) As I was checking out the speakers , I see these Carver Silver Seven t mono amplifiers ( Pair ) sitting there....I ask him how much he wants for them ?

He has no clue what to ask for them...but needs to get rid of them as well as a ton of other Carver products. I took the other Carver products as they were part of a package deal with the SRS's...but the silver sevens weren't part of the SRS deal...everything else was though :) ....what should I offer him for them ?

I told him I knew nothing about the Carver amps but they are very clean and work fine ( They were driving the SRS's ) ....I told him just a guess, but something like 400 to 500 for the pair ? He has the manuals for them and they are over 500 watts into 8 ohms each.....here are some pics of them...along with my new second pair of SRS's and the other Carver stuff and the rest of the electronics that came with the SRS deal.

I want to be fair to the guy and pay him a fair price for the amps ( Low of course ...but at least fair ) ....his eyes lit up when I said 400 to 500...I told him I would ask here on the forum for an honest opinion on their worth. I am going back on Saturday ( Maybe Friday ) for the amps....any input would be greatly appreciated.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    rest of stuff that came with the SRS deal....( Other then the silver sevens )
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2007
    The Sevens go for around $1k/pair in auctions if in good condition. Half that price is a steal............
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    Thank you for the quick reply....so is 500 for the pair at least decent enough where I dont have to look out for the cops as I leave :) The only price I found online was what you mentioned....it was for 1K
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2007
    Is this the guy you linked me to? Why did my wife come home a week early from CO? Oh well...great deal. As Dennis said, you could flip them for a grand, maybe more. Let your conscience be your guide.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2007
    Monoblocks and SDA's are a no-no....unless you have the A1 interface.

    500 for the pair is a great deal. Get 'em. If nothing else, you can make a few bucks.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    Always have a laptop or a friend handy when you conduct audio business.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • woofiepaws
    woofiepaws Posts: 215
    edited September 2007
    Grab them and run!
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited September 2007
    get um for $400 if that's what he thinks is fair. They are after all 20 year old amps. Not your fault someone else may be willing to buy them for $1200 or so. . .

    Nice grab! I tried to get some Carver ALIIIs on CL austin for $300 the other week, but was a bit too late. All they needed was a refoam job.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Is this the guy you linked me to? Why did my wife come home a week early from CO? Oh well...great deal. As Dennis said, you could flip them for a grand, maybe more. Let your conscience be your guide.

    Haha...ok I will grab them...the guys wife has been hounding him to get rid of all the huge ( SRS's ) and cluttery ( Numerous separate Carver ) " Junk " so she can buy a Plasma and one of those " New " small speaker systems for that room The Carver amps are really nice , what really surprised me was while reading the manual it stated like over 500 watts into 8 ohms and low impedance stable...but the real kicker was the manual said they weighed 16 pounds each ?

    I was like no way does a 500 watt amp weigh only 16 pounds....sure enough they do not weigh a ton ? I was surprised...does make it easier to lug home though.

    P.S. Yeah Ron...same link I gave you the heads up on...when you said you couldnt get them...I couldnt pass up another dream deal like my SRS deal last week....800 for everything like the ad said...basically 500 for the pristine SRS's and 300 for all of the Carver separates/ DBX 10/20 computerized EQ/audiosource EQ/Technics very nice turntable/akai cassette deck/Yamaha DSP-1 digital soundfield processor/Yamaha 2/4 channel amplifier...EVERYTHING for 800 except the silver seven amps...I will go back for those for 500.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2007
    Well, since you are getting SDAs, you aren't going to want those monoblocks. You're going to want to resell them to me. Yep thats what you want.

    Seriously though, awesome deal.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2007
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    I was like no way does a 500 watt amp weigh only 16 pounds....sure enough they do not weigh a ton ? I was surprised...does make it easier to lug home though.

    Those Carver's use a commutating power rail scheme. Kind of like a sliding bias output or actually a switching type amp. They are somewhat complicated to fix so if you ever have problems make sure you find someone who understands how they are designed and how they work because it's very easy to f*ck them up.

    Again mono's are a no no with SDA's unless they are 1) AI-1 compatible and 2) you have the AI-1 cable or are able to build one or 3) The negative terminals of each unit can be tied together (check with the manufacturer or a very knowldgeable repair shop).

    Nice find

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2007
    The Carver tube monos can be strapped per Polk and Rita at Sunfire/Carver.

    While I'm on the subject, fredv has been kind enough to look at my sick TFM35 since CCR has been down. He tells me it's my ears or imagination as he has played with it for 3 or 4 weeks on M5s, DQ10s and ALIIIs without any problems. Thankfully, he did open it up, tweak and sprinkled some magic dust in there, muttered a Chinese incantation and now it's good to go ;).

    Thanks Fred...looking forward to putting it back in the rig.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2007
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    The Carver tube monos can be strapped per Polk and Rita at Sunfire/Carver.

    The tube versions are Silver 7's and are ultra rare and expensive. The Silver 7t is a SS amp so I would still check to see if the terminals can be strapped.

    H9

    P.s. Several have the Silver 9t's (Madmax comes to mind) and I don't believe the neg terminals are strapped.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2007
    A very quick search came up with this

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-26646.html

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    I saw that too during my search :) but those were the REAL tube amps...big money for those...very cool looking. I will take more pics of these today...I am leaving in 20 minutes to go get them.....
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited September 2007
    How much did you pay for that package deal if you don't mind me asking?
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    ESAVINON wrote: »
    How much did you pay for that package deal if you don't mind me asking?

    I dont mind at all....I let my best friend take the pristine SRS's for 500 .....I kept all of the electronics for 300 ( The deal was entire stereo and speakers for 800 ).

    On the side I saw 2 of the silver seven t amplifiers and asked him what he wanted for those...he had no clue...I told him I had no clue either but I guessed maybe 400 to 500 for the pair. After checking on here as to their worth , and looking myself online I found they were being picked up for like 1,200 for the 2 that I found online and was confirmed about that by forum members here.

    I had to at LEAST give him half of what was the going recent rate so when my bud and I went back for the amps I told him that my 400 to 500 was a bit too low to make me be satisfied with the deal...but I still wanted a killer deal I told him. So I told him I would give him 600 ( My half...allowing me to meet that ) for the amps...he was extremely happy...as we both were...the guy was really a nice guy...so was his family.

    So total monies spent for mint srs's...more carver components ( C-16 preamp..TL-3300 cd player...TX-11 FM tuner...and a digital time lens component as well I will have to read about...it went between the cd player and the preamp ) ...a nice turntable...cassette deck...a really nice DBX 10/20 compterized EQ....a audiosource EQ...a yamaha 2/4 channel amplifier...a yamaha DSP-1 soundfield processor..and the pair of Carver silver seven t monoblock amps was 1,400

    Really the only things I wanted were the SRS's and the silver seven's...I will just sell the other components ( I gave away the cassette and turntable to my friends mom...she has loads of vinyl and cassettes she couldnt play because hers had crapped out ) on craigslist ( Or maybe on our flea market...the carver stuff is decent )
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    On a side note....I did the the cap/res upgrade to my srs's I picked up last week ( I already had the components here ) ....I pulled out the crossover of the srs's I just picked up day before yesterday to show my friend how easy the upgrade was to do....it had been done already !!!!! I told him not only did he pay 100 less then I did last week, his already had been upgraded ( And a very nice job I might add ) ....so I made him buy dinner last night.....
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2007
    Happy Endings :)

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited September 2007
    How much do you want for the dbx 10/20?
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    edited September 2007
    The Carver Silver 7t amps are really nice. They are very musical and can handle difficult loads. Here is a picture of mine when I brought them home. Conratulations
    silver7t.jpg
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    I have always wanted a pair of those....nice grab !

    I believe Amulford has a pair also
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2007
    I only had a couple of hours to play with the amps ( Absolute BEASTS...extremely powerful and accurate into a 2 ohm load :) ) when I got a phone call that I didnt want to ever get...my mom was on her way to an indian casino with my dad and she fell down and broke her hip :(

    Just got into the hotel room now after spending the last 36 hours straight in the hospital..hip replaced ..recovering now.

    I will answer pm's and reply later...must sleep now...
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    beardog03 wrote: »
    I have always wanted a pair of those....nice grab !

    I believe Amulford has a pair also

    A pair of amps or a pair of balls?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    your call bro...

    I was refering to the amps, but...!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited September 2007
    Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..........Looking to sell that Carver C-16? Let me know.:D
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  • farmerralph
    farmerralph Posts: 1
    edited May 2008
    So is anybody still looking for a pair of Silver seven T's?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    I sure hope not.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2008
    Yes, I'll give you $25 a piece for each.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited May 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »
    I have always wanted a pair of those....nice grab !

    I believe Amulford has a pair also

    I got two pair and a spare, Dog.;)
    dorokusai wrote: »
    A pair of amps or a pair of balls?

    A big set of brass ones, ****...

    $600 for a pait of 7t's is outstanding. If'n it were me, I'd build an A1-I, but thats just me...
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