Just FYI....you're insane?
dorokusai
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I agree with a couple of these issues. Read it, interpret it as you see fit.
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf
I believe this has been posted before, so please feel free to link me. Pay attention to the date....2000.
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf
I believe this has been posted before, so please feel free to link me. Pay attention to the date....2000.
CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Cool read! Ready for the onslaught of replies, and this one linked / quoted in future threads?
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I guess I should sell all my analog and speaker cables and buy new ones from monoprice tonight.
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Wow, the writer was speaking in such general terms. I kept looking for the knock out punch but never got hit with it.
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I agree with a couple of these issues. Read it, interpret it as you see fit.
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf
I believe this has been posted before, so please feel free to link me. Pay attention to the date....2000.
You've been hanging out with John K. again. REPOST, thread -
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I'm so sick of these stupid posts. I'm so far removed from any technical or scientific background, it's not even funny . . . yet, I can instantly hear the difference (my girlfriend, who still listens to a $50 boombox, can hear the difference) between BJC speaker cables which are arguably better than Radioshack and my Signal Speaker Cables. This small test is not scientific, but in practice it has black/white results.
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The posts are what keep some folks from drifting off into space.
Why bother posting if its a waste of your time?CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
The posts are what keep some folks from drifting off into space.
Why bother posting if its a waste of your time?
Absolutely brilliant:DI never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
Mark, I'd be curious which parts of that article you agree with...
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Whomever was swayed, can I have your stuff?
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The writer of that article must think the iPod is manna from heaven..."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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I give up! My whole HT will be sitting on the curb, wires and all!
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Polkmaniac wrote: »Mark, I'd be curious which parts of that article you agree with...
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I agree with some of it to an extent.Sharp Elite 70
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I guess "Audio Critic" is a fitting name. Let them enjoy their boomboxes I say.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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Just FYI....you're insane?
Awesome!
I knew it! I knew I was! I told them I was!
They said "No sir, you're quite alright!"
I said "No way Jose! ('cause that was the guy's name) I'm totally nucking futs!"
But Jose told me I was lysdexic. You know, when you read things wackbords and get your mords all wixed up? Yeah that and I'm a bad speeler.
But I'm gonna go back and show them! They'll believe me for sure this time!
Maybe I'll get one of those padded rooms now! Maybe line it with velcro so i can wear a wool suit and just "hang around"!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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LOL. I mean I think that the biggest difference in cable sound is due to gauge and shielding really. And I always roll my eyes when I read about burn in for electronics or cables in magazines although I do believe in speaker break in.Sharp Elite 70
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Totem Mask Surrounds X4
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Sony PS3
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Even the writer of this article acknowledged speaker break-in FWIW.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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Even IF YOU AGREE WITH THE ACTICLE, there are caveats.
If you don't beleive in cables, at least buy a decent one.
If you don't believe in power cords or conditioners, at least have clean power.
Tubes color sound. (Damn, does't everyone like a little color in their world??)
I, for the record, can hear cable differences. No, I won't be giving up
my tube amp. Will I pay $2000 for a cable? Hell no.
Would I pay $100-200? Yes.
As one fairly decent dealer and music lover told me,
don't get hung up on expensive, get what sounds good.
If a SS amp gets you there without exotic cables, be happy."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
If you go on the premise that ruler flat freq. response, zero distortion, IE perfect, measurable response equates to ideal sound.....then, yeah....the article makes a lot of sense.
I however don't believe that everything that is audible has a corresonding measurement......if tubes are distortion, then, hey, I like distortion. Big deal.
You listen to what you like and I'll listen to what I like.
BDTI plan for the future. - F1Nut -
As for the tube sound, there are
two possibilities: (1) Its a figment of
the deluded audiophiles imagination,
or (2) its a deliberate coloration introduced
by the manufacturer to appeal
to corrupted tastesAs for cables, yecch Were dealing
with audiophile voodoo here rather
than science.
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Hey Doro, I like your technique!
Lob the audio grenade into the room & watch what happens!
Nice work!
Wish I'd done it! "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then." Bob Seger -
BottomFeeder wrote: »Hey Doro, I like your technique!
Lob the audio grenade into the room & watch what happens!
Nice work!
Wish I'd done it!
But who do we volunteer to jump on the grenade to save the rest of us?:rolleyes:
I've read that one before a long time ago. Agree or not, it reminds us
to use a little sanity. I seem to remember PMing Doro about cable burn in
back when I first joined the forum. He really didn't respond.
I know why after watching the debates here over the years.
The internet seems to bring out the best and worst in people.
BTW, I now believe in cable burn in. Damn, logic tells me I must be
crazy. Yet, there it is. What's next, UFO's?"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I have subscribed to the Audio Critic for many years. His observations and comments are based on electrical engineering principles and double blind testing. He believes in the science of audio and electrical engineering. He has very little belief in the techno tweeks like fancy cones to support your equipment on, bricks on the equipment or CD demagnetizers. You get the idea.
He also believes that accurate double blind testing is complicated to set up properly. For example, the sound level from amplifiers being compaired must be set up to within 0.1 db. This takes time to set up. He has never seen any one tell the difference between any two amplifiers in a double blind testing. He has other qualifications for double blind amplifier testing also, like the amplifier can't be driven higher than a certain distortion amount and must match impedances of input and output. He allows people to listen to any music in thier home with both amplfierts for as long as they want. He then comes to your home and balances the sound to within 0.10 db and does the test with any music you want for as long as you want. He believes that people are very sensitive to the sound levels and that if these levels are not matched to within 0o.1 db the test is not valid.
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He believes that people are very sensitive to the sound levels and that if these levels are not matched to within 0o.1 db the test is not valid.
This makes the most sense. We've done A/Bing of several different peices of gear in this little mini Polk community here and the biggest problem we have is getting the db levels equal. The louder/brighter peice of gear always sounds better, at first, but when the levels are matched a closely as possible of course it doesn't turn out that way.
