DLP VS LCD VS Plasma

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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    Twin plasmas and happy. 42" on the wall in master, and 50" in LR on pedestal. If I needed an outdoor signage display, I'd get the LCD. Are there people still buying DLP's with the price on flat panel this low?

    Sure there are. Doesn't make sense to buy a TV set based on it being flat if you don't absolutely need it to be. Plasmas are great for bars and restaurants, and small rooms like bedrooms but if you want a decent size screen then DLP is the way to go.

    Sam's Club was selling 61" 1080p Samsung's for sub-$2k. Where can I find similar size 1080p plasma for that price? 50" 720p screens can be had for sub-$1000.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    Sure there are. Doesn't make sense to buy a TV set based on it being flat if you don't absolutely need it to be. Plasmas are great for bars and restaurants, and small rooms like bedrooms but if you want a decent size screen then DLP is the way to go.

    Sam's Club was selling 61" 1080p Samsung's for sub-$2k. Where can I find similar size 1080p plasma for that price? 50" 720p screens can be had for sub-$1000.

    If you are looking to sacrifice picture quality and reliability for that extra few inches, have a large ghetto-looking box in your house, and spend the same amount of money, then I suppose you have the right formula. 1080p DLP looks worse than any decent 720/768 plasma or LCD.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    If you are looking to sacrifice picture quality and reliability for that extra few inches, have a large ghetto-looking box in your house, and spend the same amount of money, then I suppose you have the right formula. 1080p DLP looks worse than any decent 720/768 plasma or LCD.

    That's your opinion. I rate LCD worst of them all, plasma is close to DLP is PQ but I don't personally like the clayfaces in plasma picture. I don't notice rainbows in DLP so for me it's the perfect match.

    Of course none of them match CRT in PQ but what can you do. I'd still love to put a 9" CRT in my HT but a digital FP has to do unless I can find one locally.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    If you are looking to sacrifice picture quality and reliability for that extra few inches,
    LOL ... You can call it a few extra inches if you like ... I call it 2x the screen size of your 50 and 3x the screen size of your 42 ... As far as PQ goes, I'd be happy to have the plasma owning neighbors post their comments which typically begin with ... WOW ...

    Ghetto box ? ... LOL ... it fits quite nicely between the mains which are only slightly shorter.

    I will admit though that 50-60" works faily well in the bedroom.
    Rick
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    Wannabie,

    I'm sure your living/media room looks gauche-lovely. Sounds very stylish, contemporary and an excellent use of space. I have friends, and they like to come over, so I leave a little space for us all to gather in comfort. Enjoy the Ghetto-box.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    Wannabie,

    I'm sure your living/media room looks gauche-lovely. Sounds very stylish, contemporary and an excellent use of space. I have friends, and they like to come over, so I leave a little space for us all to gather in comfort. Enjoy the Ghetto-box.

    Oh, you live in Boston, all you can afford is a rat hole to live in. That explains why you can't fit in a larger screen... :D
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  • FicmanS
    FicmanS Posts: 134
    edited September 2007
    Plasma ROCKS... I have Several LCD's and none of them touch my Plasma for picture quality...
    Rockin' In My House :D


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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    Oh, you live in Boston, all you can afford is a rat hole to live in. That explains why you can't fit in a larger screen... :D

    Actually, I'm quite solvent, and have extra rooms that I don't use. I just don't believe that an entire wall should be dominated by a large box. If I wanted a larger screen, I'd have bought one. The 50" Plasma is more than enough for the 22x14 living room, and I agree that the 42" which I also own, is perfect for the bedroom. Until I build a dedicated theater with a projector, screen, and popcorn maker, those enormous items have no place in a room that serves a meeting place for my friends and family. I'd be embarrassed to invite people over to a room that looked like a ghetto frat house.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    I have no TV in my main living room as it is dedicated for hanging out. My second living room (I believe the word here is family room) has a 61" set and then I have a FP upstairs in HT. Your comment about ghetto look is inaccurate as I have plenty of room and still have a large room without a TV at all. If it was, your living room with a large TV would be "ghetto"... ;)

    Anyways, a 50" DLP does not take a lot of space, looks stylish, looks as good as (or better) than LCD or plasma, and costs way less. Unless you need to have something that hangs on the wall, it's a great option.
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  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited September 2007
    I like Plasma picture quality but hate having to stretch/zoom 4:3 SD programming. Burn-in is a problem I'd rather now worry about. Changing bulbs sucks too for RP/DLP.

    I think I'll just continue to wait for new technology. And also wait for programming to move away from 4:3.

    DLP/RP keeps getting thinner and thinner as well. Quite a few newer models are even wall mountable.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    PhantomOG wrote: »
    And also wait for programming to move away from 4:3.

    That's true, 4:3 stinks but for me the only SD programming that I end up watching these days is Formula One, and an occasional NHL game that's not on HD. I don't watch TV that much nowadays so I can afford to be picky but even if I did HD selection is great with the channel package I have.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    Wannabie,

    I'm sure your living/media room looks gauche-lovely. Sounds very stylish, contemporary and an excellent use of space. I have friends, and they like to come over, so I leave a little space for us all to gather in comfort. Enjoy the Ghetto-box.
    With that attitude and myopic view you and your friends shouldn't have any probs fitting comfortably into a closet ...

    In any case our family room is 24 x 16 which is plenty of room for HT ... The living room is twice that size ... No need for TV's in there ...
    Rick
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    PolkWannabie wrote: »
    With that attitude and myopic view you and your friends shouldn't have any probs fitting comfortably into a closet ....

    Something you suggest to strangers often?

    Am I at a rest stop. . . tapping my foot?

    A 600 sqft apartment in my area goes for 400K, so with 1300 sqft, I'm grateful to live so lavishly. You would need well over a million to have room to do what Sami describes, so in his case I'll say that it may make sense, although I've yet to see an attractive DLP.
    If Wannabies room is as big as he states (48 x 32), putting a DLP in there instead of a FP, is ludicrous. How. . . Jersey.
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    Something you suggest to strangers often?

    Am I at a rest stop. . . tapping my foot?

    A 600 sqft apartment in my area goes for 400K, so with 1300 sqft, I'm grateful to live so lavishly. You would need well over a million to have room to do what Sami describes, so in his case I'll say that it may make sense, although I've yet to see an attractive DLP.
    If Wannabies room is as big as he states (48 x 32), putting a DLP in there instead of a FP, is ludicrous. How. . . Jersey.


    I don't see you making friends on here very fast. You shove your 2 cents down people's throats......brag about how expensive your location is.....and now throw a put down at the state of Jersey:rolleyes:
    Can you say snob?

    By the way, I like my DLP. The picture quality is much nicer then many plasmas I have seen. General rule of size for a room is sitting area should be twice the length of the TV's diag. mesurement. But this may only be true in gehtto land I guess.
    Michael


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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    A 600 sqft apartment in my area goes for 400K, so with 1300 sqft, I'm grateful to live so lavishly.

    I told you, a rat hole. :D

    Texas isn't the best place to live in, not even close, but there are advantages to it and one of them is real estate. $400k puts you into a mansion in the rich neighborhood around DFW. Boston is a nice area, I'm not putting it down at all, but once you get used to warm weather and large living area there just isn't going back. 1300sq.ft is a $100k starter home here, if in decent condition.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    ... If Wannabies room is as big as he states (48 x 32) ...
    Not only is your reading comprehension not particularly good ... You apparently don't have a grasp of 4th grade math either.
    Rick
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    PolkWannabie wrote: »
    In any case our family room is 24 x 16 which is plenty of room for HT ... The living room is twice that size ... No need for TV's in there ...


    Those are your words. If you care to read them again. You reference the family room at 24x16, then state that that the living room is twice that size. I won't give you the benefit of being able to multiply by two, so I'll do it for you. . . . . carry the 1. . .. . 48x32. Tool.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    I told you, a rat hole. :D

    Texas isn't the best place to live in, not even close, but there are advantages to it and one of them is real estate. $400k puts you into a mansion in the rich neighborhood around DFW. Boston is a nice area, I'm not putting it down at all, but once you get used to warm weather and large living area there just isn't going back. 1300sq.ft is a $100k starter home here, if in decent condition.

    Well, the rats have the day off, but being mostly filled in swampland, there isn't a shortage of them:D When I'm not here, I'm in Mexico so I can see the sun occasionally. Prices here are a bit crazy, and so are the people, but that's why they let me stay.:eek: Mansion eh? I'll take two.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    MSALLA wrote: »
    I don't see you making friends on here very fast. You shove your 2 cents down people's throats......brag about how expensive your location is.....and now throw a put down at the state of Jersey:rolleyes:
    Can you say snob?

    By the way, I like my DLP. The picture quality is much nicer then many plasmas I have seen. General rule of size for a room is sitting area should be twice the length of the TV's diag. mesurement. But this may only be true in gehtto land I guess.


    No, the rule in the Ghetto, is that if it barely fits in the room, then it's too small.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    When I'm not here, I'm in Mexico so I can see the sun occasionally.
    Off-topic, I know, but where in Mexico? My wife is from Puerto Vallarta and we are buying a 2BR condo right on the beach, as investment and maybe some day for retirement (but I'm sure by then we'll have quite a few of them).
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited September 2007
    Go SXRD baby :)

    I’m looking to eventually get 2 Samsung LCD 40's TV's for my media room. If I were to buy a new rear projection TV I would go:

    1) SXRD
    2) DLP

    If I were to get a new flat panel

    1) LCD
    2) Plasma

    If I were to get a new front projection right now

    * The new Sony (SXRD) or the new panny (LCD) that just came out
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    Those are your words. If you care to read them again. You reference the family room at 24x16, then state that that the living room is twice that size. I won't give you the benefit of being able to multiply by two, so I'll do it for you. . . . . carry the 1. . .. . 48x32. Tool.
    I'm well aware of my words ... Unfortunately you obviously still don't get it ... Since the math appears to be over your head, try drawing it on paper ...
    Rick
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    No, the rule in the Ghetto, is that if it barely fits in the room, then it's too small.
    You sure seem to know a lot about ghetto's ... A personal, possibly ongoing, experience perhaps ...
    Rick
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited September 2007
    I thought id throw this into the mix DLP are yes good pciture but fair warning they becomming obsolete and they are very expensive to repair.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    I thought id throw this into the mix DLP are yes good pciture but fair warning they becomming obsolete and they are very expensive to repair.

    How would they become obsolete? The technology? Who cares if you already have one.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited September 2007
    PolkWannabie wrote: »
    I'm well aware of my words ... Unfortunately you obviously still don't get it ... Since the math appears to be over your head, try drawing it on paper ...

    Twice the size, double the other diameter and you have it. So something like 24x32. Did I get it right? :D
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    Yes ... A toughie huh ...

    If you double both dimensions in a 2 space problem you get FOUR times the area in square feet ... not twice ... i.e.

    24 * 16 = 384 SqFt ... 48 * 32 = 1536 SqFt ... maybe it's different some how when one is living lavishly ...
    Rick
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    PolkWannabie wrote: »
    In any case our family room is 24 x 16 which is plenty of room for HT ... The living room is twice that size ... No need for TV's in there ...

    You gave two lengths (a size) in linear ft, not area, and said it was "double that size" If you calculate this as it reads, it's twice the dimensions. That was my point.

    If you said my room is 384 ft, different story. Missing the point.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited September 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    Off-topic, I know, but where in Mexico? My wife is from Puerto Vallarta and we are buying a 2BR condo right on the beach, as investment and maybe some day for retirement (but I'm sure by then we'll have quite a few of them).

    Cancun. Saturated in the hotel zone over the last 4 years. Pricing has gone up and you only have 3-4 bed layouts approx 2200ft. Approx 600K for these, 300K for something 5 minutes out.

    I'm looking in Costa Rica, and it's a hot investment area. There is some flipping of unbuilt lots already, and it's expected to continue over the next ten+ years. The beauty is that 2/3 of the country is green space and cannot be developed, so they have a smart growth plan. Stable government. 1.5-2 acre lots on/near ocean with infrastructure around 100K. Build out with CBS structure at 75$ per foot.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited September 2007
    SKsolutions wrote: »
    You gave two lengths (a size) in linear ft, not area, and said it was "double that size" If you calculate this as it reads, it's twice the dimensions. That was my point.

    If you said my room is 384 ft, different story. Missing the point.
    I didn't miss the point ... There's just no validity to it ...

    Stating the room is 16x24 defines the area, there is no different story.

    If you chose to multipliy both dimensions by 2 then by definition you arrived at an answer that was 4 times the size.

    If you for some reason have a need to insist on believing that 1536 SqFt is some how only twice the size of 384 SqFt then so be it ...
    Rick
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