Passive radiators for SRS 1.2's
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The thing that really bothers me here is that a member (a new member) was asking if someone had these FS. Now I believe in the free enterprise system as much as anyone else but he doesn't even get them. Lasareth who has already admitted to having 1 pair for a "Rainy day" which will probably never come now is hoarding 2 pairs of these PR's. I thinks that stinks because there maybe people (not the member who doesn't like the color) who are really in need of these.
Just my .02c and moving along now because I don't want to even get started on how this violates the rules for selling here on the forum. This whole transaction sticks like an old moldy piece of cheese.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Hey guys no big deal. I actualy did send a private message to shadownight as soon as I could. Shadownight take a look at the upper right hand corner of the forum page once you log in and you will see "welcome" and then private messages.
Anywa, Sorry I created such a firestorm. I am happy Sal got em. I was going to pay $500 bucks for them. Oh well. What can you do. -
These should go to gsdk if he wants them, seems we have a bit of me me me, mememememe..........going on. Of course one could argue there is nothing wrong with what he has, although why just get them and then store them or e-bay them......not really helping the club hear, I mean it still is a club? or have I got the wrong now and we are just all out for ourselves.
this is the problem with rules, they either apply across the board for any item no matter how rare or they do not, I say eff the 25 post rule............../////////||||||\\\\\\\ reminds me of Animal Farm, where everyone is equal but some are more equal.......or just have the rule continue to be skirted by posting here. Never really made sense to me but..........
Of course the whole thing could be a sham just a F1 has stated. I dunno as many times as the PR's have been talked about for repairs now after 6 years someone who has been lurking steps up with new ones......wow.
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I hate to keep this thread going but there needs to be a little sanity brought in here.
First off I have to commend Sal for not posting since the thread started to get ugly. His practices of having spares of permanently out-of-stock parts seems to really get on some forum member’s nerves.
Secondly H9 your assessment of that "rainy day" not coming is incorrect; Sal's cat did a shredding number on the PR in his right 1.2 TL. So his vision of owning spares is well founded.
I know the rules were jostled here but the original poster is satisfied and Sal got a replacement PR and his beloved spare. Unless Shadow turns out to be a fraud, I think all is well.
Apparently Shadow has been lurking because he knew that I've been looking for a pair of original CRS stands. He has contacted me privately through Sal and has offered up a pair of stands he has in storage. He also offered to ship the stands to me FedEx on Monday and give me the total price after which I can send payment. I think if he is a shyster he sure has a funny way of ripping people off.
Is it that unbelievable that an audiophile has tons of gear and accessories stored away? C'mon.
I think what happened here is a coincidence and not some shyster trying to get over on us. If this newest member does get over on Sal then shame on Sal and a lesson learned. If not I think we need to guide the new guys to the forum rules for future reference and let it go. -
I've met Sal, had an enjoyable conversation with him and look forward to the next time we meet. I also know of the cat issue, but Ted is right, too many rules both written and unwritten were ignored here. Let's try and do better the next time guys and gals.
Let's move on to something a little more interesting, at least to me. gdsk39a's 1500hp Charger. http://srt8forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2590Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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BTW, if there are any other lurkers out there that have a VTL Super Deluxe or Joule LA100 Mk III with Cardas wiring just sitting around, PM me immediately.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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BTW, if there are any other lurkers out there that have a VTL Super Deluxe or Joule LM100 Mk III with Cardas wiring just sitting around, PM me immediately.
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Who.....me!?!
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Maybe you should leave the grills on?
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Sal
Please, you can have the passive radiators. Mine at least are not damaged. I just wanted a pair to replace the old ones for the sake of replacing as I just upgraded all the drivers and tweeters.
By the way the SRT8 thread was hilarious, I think alot of folks laughed their asses off!
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First off let me say Sal thats mighty nice of you to offer these to G man here. Your a good man and it shows by doing this what your made of. Hats Off to ya
Personally I believe that whoever responds to a for sale ad first should get first shot period whatever there reasons may be. as shadow mentioned you were the first to respond. if I had came to a forum and was told there was not a chance in hell that I would ever find a pair I might not check back for months if at all on it. We could fight non stop for weeks about who has the most need.
Why I posted what I did earlier was that I was concerned for a couple of reasons. one being that not being in the flea market and being a very rare item and not having a price set on the items up front can lead to bad things happening.
Such as the seller taking bids via pm or email basically saying that so and so offered me X amount of dollars can you match it? etc
Another one is the seller selling these items to a dozen different peeps that responded privately via pm or email, and not delivering them to anyone.
There are reasons why the flea market rules are in place this is a couple of them. To avoid this sort of thing happening.
Also to avoid any ill will later on by others who wanted the same items.
In the flea market it is first come first serve so this would not even be an issue now.
most likely this issue will come up again perhaps by a newcomer that doesnt know how the flea market works and posts a item for sale in another thread.
I suggest that whoever wants these item/s in the future to simply say yes I want it and I call dibs on it but please post this in the flea market area so everything is aboveboard and public. this protects both the buyer and seller so no one can say he said she said this or that. and lets others be aware that the item is sold or not without fear of paying for it and realizing that so did 12 others lol:D
REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all -
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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Parts Express Passive Radiators will work but there is work involved in regards to fitment. I replaced a pair of SDA1C PR's with PE PR's. The radiators are much more rigid than the OEM radiators and I thought the sound was different personally. They are also in a traditional cone shape, not flat. The "customer" didn't care and thought they sounded better, so go figure.
Ken Swauger offered to get these tested for me ages ago and when I get time I'll hand them over to Polk. I have PE radiators in 8, 10 & 12. They have a 15" PR but not in the cheap range, so its not in my stash.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
I'm glad it all worked out and that shadowofnight is a stand up kinda guy.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Glad to see they got to you in as good a shape as I shipped them...I packed them to be dropped off the truck and still be ok
( I also packed Joe's crs stands the same way ) Lets hope his package has your good fortune as well The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club -
gdsk39a ? It was nice of him...I hope his cleaning worked well The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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Sal, I think I would get your cat declawed if I were you! haha. I have 3 cats and all 3 have no front claws...and that was before I really started getting back into 2-channel!
Glad this whole deal turned out well in the end.Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner. -
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I catch your meaning...you did good.shadowofnight wrote: »gdsk39a ? It was nice of him...I hope his cleaning worked well
S.O.N. shipped the PRs...thank the right guy:eek:
Combo rig:
Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
PB13Ultra RO
BW Silvers
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Shadow of Night is a very decent person. He sent me a set of new, in the box, CRS stands that I received today without seeing the money first.
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Didn't some folks want to hang the guy for offering these things earlier?? Interesting how things play out around here sometimes.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Regardless of the outcome, it wasn't done right according to the rules of the company you are working for and which we all, more or less, hacked out and agreed to.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Even though it was absolutely unintentional , and a spur of the moment offer to help someone...all rules will be followed in the future...by me anyways The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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:cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "
Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables -
I have a few holes that the wood screws just do not hold tight enough anymore. So I went to Loews and bought (25) #10 One Inch Stainless Steal Oval Head Phillips Screws and I'm going to just paint the the heads with a black touch up paint that you would use for your car. The paint has one of those little brushes like the size for nail polish.
Another thing you might consider is wood filler. Pack in tightly, let dry, drill a pilot hole, and reinsert original screw. That is what I have used for years whenever one of the MDF holes got a little loose. I preferred not to use larger (and with time, even larger) screws because, over time, you are making larger and larger holes in the MDF and getting closer to the edge of the PR/speaker cutout. On my 1.2TL's, the edge of the PR screw holes is only about 1/8" from the edge of the PR cutout.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
glad everything turned out ok here,but after sal comes over and listens to my 1b's his speakers and spare pr's will be up for sale,lol. have a good day
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Only one keeps turning
Sal,
Shove three round toothpicks in the hole that will give you a good snug fit. -
Joe, Can I do this while the PR is already screwed in?, I would hate to take it off again and risk one of the other screws getting loose also.
There's something different about these PR's, I don't know if it's the new seal, the larger screws or the new PR but when I press on the PR the 8 MW's move like they did with the old PR but now if I push on one MW the PR moves as well. this was not the case with the old PR's.
I guess the seal is better now?
Sal
You would have to unscrew it to use the toothpicks. I found that with a screw spinning the PR rattles during deep bass passages. What I did was to remove all the screws, do the toothpick trick in all the holes, place two strips of speaker sealer (Parts Express) around the perimeter of the PR and them screw it back in. I was able to really torque the screws tightly and the sealer really held the PR in place. I did this back in June and have not had one bit of problem with the screws coming loose or the PR rattling anymore. -
hearingimpared wrote: »You would have to unscrew it to use the toothpicks. I found that with a screw spinning the PR rattles during deep bass passages. What I did was to remove all the screws, do the toothpick trick in all the holes, place two strips of speaker sealer (Parts Express) around the perimeter of the PR and them screw it back in. I was able to really torque the screws tightly and the sealer really held the PR in place. I did this back in June and have not had one bit of problem with the screws coming loose or the PR rattling anymore.
I don't have this problem, but why has no one suggested just shifting the position of the PR by a 3-4" and drilling all new holes? Can't do this with tweets, but one could do it with the drivers as well. The leads wouldn't all be symmetrical, but who cares if you get a good tight seal again.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
