What receiver is good for..

FittyFieFo

okay thanks man, I'm just hearing other opinions

SolidSqual

You should. It's an important investment. However, I stand by my receiver. Keep up the good fight.

FittyFieFo

By bright, you mean loud right? High pitched? But how loud do you need to have it before it gives you a headache?

Anyone selling their Denon's?

Hold onto those Yahama's, that looks really enticing.

SolidSqual

Its waiting for you. Please know that Bright does not mean loud. Some may see bright as increased detail. Others may call it shrill. And still others may see it as too much emphasis on high notes. I can't speak for everyone, but I guarantee if you like your sound forward and exciting then this reciever is for you.

FittyFieFo

Well, I listen majority to Rap, R&B, Punk, Classical. How will they sound as far as BRIGHT is?

Also, I will be using these speakers to watch movies too.

SolidSqual

The is great for Rap, Hip Hip, Rock and whatever other fast bassey music you may have. As far as classic goes . . . well you're not going to hear that stuff right without a tube amp and some separates. Nonetheless, classic should sound good as well. As fas as movies go, this amp was made to watch films. Check out the website. It's THX-EX certified and has tons of movie settings. The auto-setup is excellent to balance the system as well.


There's nothing wrong with it whatsoever. I promise I would not place my integrity on this forum in peril. That being said, you can snag a new one of these for around $480. I got mine for about $500 plus shipping. I thought I would give you a good deal. Plus, the money left over would be exactly what I need to buy the cable I want. In my mind, I get what I want and you get what you need. That being said, I don't know why Yamaha continues to list the unit at $800 plus. That's just what it originally sold for. Does this help?

MSALLA

For me, being bright or HT (movies) isn't really an issue.It's music where being to bright kills me. Do yourself a favor. Go to a store that has Yamaha's and RTi's and listen to them toghther to see if you like it or not. Then have the salesman run them off something else,like a Denon or something and let your ears make the choice. Look to get something with pre-outs as said before. Solids deal on that Yammi is a great deal. You could buy it and if you don't like it just sell it. You'd make your money back at that price. You'll get alot of opinions on her or other fourms but your ears are the only things that can tell you what's right for you. Good luck.

WilliamM2

There is a strong anti-Yamaha bias on this site. You could also check out www.avsforum.com for other opinions.

I purchased a Yamaha RX-V1500, which I believe is basically the same unit SolidSqual has. I brought the Yamaha and a Denon AVR-3805 home to directly compare the two at the time. They both sounded about the same when listening to music, but with the Denon, the noise floor was higher, and a faint hiss was produced at higher volumes. The Yamaha is dead silent, even with the volume all the way up (no signal). When it came to DD or DTS processing, the Yamaha was miles ahead in SQ, in my opinion. I really expected to like the Denon more, it did retail for $350 more at the time.

Personally, I think you should give Solids offer some serious consideration. At the price he is offering, there is nothing to lose. If you decide you don't like it, you will easily recover your money if you decide to sell it. I sold my mint RX-V1500 two weeks ago for $425 locally.

FittyFieFo

Alright, I mean I don't think I can get any better deals out there. I need to find one soon because I am moving into my college dorm. With this said, give me till...2pm tomorrow to think about it. (Chances: 90%)

Remember, this is a starter kit I'm working on. I'm not going to be blasting it!

FittyFieFo

Hey Solid, you got AOL?

SolidSqual

sorry no AOL

FittyFieFo

k cool, PM's it is

John K.

Fo, you've run smack into one of the audio mythologies that continue to be endlessly recirculated despite the lack of any factual basis: the "bright" receiver. For the Yamaha or any other receiver to add such a sonic characteristic to material that it amplifies it would have to have a substantial inaccuracy in frequency response over a broad area in the upper midrange/lower treble. This simply doesn't exist; the response is flat over the entire 20-20KHz audible range. A very short recent article in the Audio Critic, "Electronic Signal Paths Do Not Have a Personality!" briefly summarizes basic truths of modern audio technology which many still fail to grasp, and should be studied.

If the 5890 which Solid offers is in the described condition it would be an excellent buy for you and would have more than enough power for your speakers in nearly all circumstances. Keep in mind that at an average comfortably loud level they'll be using no more than about 1 watt, and even brief peaks are unlikely to hit more than around 100 watts.

heiney9

John K. wrote: »

Fo, you've run smack into one of the audio mythologies that continue to be endlessly recirculated despite the lack of any factual basis: the "bright" receiver. For the Yamaha or any other receiver to add such a sonic characteristic to material that it amplifies it would have to have a substantial inaccuracy in frequency response over a broad area in the upper midrange/lower treble. This simply doesn't exist; the response is flat over the entire 20-20KHz audible range. A very short recent article in the Audio Critic, "Electronic Signal Paths Do Not Have a Personality!" briefly summarizes basic truths of modern audio technology which many still fail to grasp, and should be studied.

If the 5890 which Solid offers is in the described condition it would be an excellent buy for you and would have more than enough power for your speakers in nearly all circumstances. Keep in mind that at an average comfortably loud level they'll be using no more than about 1 watt, and even brief peaks are unlikely to hit more than around 100 watts.

YAWN,

Spoken like a true anti Hi-Fi insurgent who is hell bent on trying to infuse cluless noobs with your moronic ideology. Go back and sit in front of your Victrola since there have been no advances in audio since then. (according to you)

H9

SolidSqual

Fitty,

Don't pay attention to the guy two posts above. The receiver is excellent, but trust me his numbers and propoganda are grossly inaccurate. Everything of what he said is easily disproved through application. It's important you understand this so you can learn and build a quality system. Also every piece of equipment has its own sonic signature. Finding synergy is important. I look forward to hearing back from you to see if you want the Yammi.

FittyFieFo

Well first, I didn't even understand him. Secondly, I already made my decision. Thirdly, cool nice doing business with ya Solid!

Also, since there will probably be no more posts about this dilemma of mine. I would like to thank all of you who influenced me and supported my choice of receiver. Al though there is a "Yahama + Rti10' = Bad" theory, I will give it a try out.

Thank you again all, I will be around the forum, trying to help other noobs out...by basically...doing nothing..

Willow

I think at that price your good to go, try it out for a while. With the money saved, look in to a inexpensive 2 or 3 ch amp and watch out! Hey worse case down the line you don't enjoy the amp, sell it !

SolidSqual

Fitty, look into Parasound A23 or NAD C272. I have heard both run Rti8s and 10s with ease. They can be found on audiogon in great shape for excellent prices. The A23 should be your first choice.

icehouse1

Denon are very Good.

zombie boy 2000

Icehouse are very Bad.

I should know. I pounded about eight of 'em last night and am feeling the thunder.

AndyGwis

UGGGGHHHHH, Ice House is awful.

Yamaha's are nice AVRs for the money. I looked at them for a while but went with HK for looks above everything else. I was a noob at the time, but the decision has served me well. I was actually able to put together a nice first system based mostly on luck.

Willow

Andy I don't think you made a bad choice especially with the 6XX series. I'm very happy with my 335 and 340. I can only imagine the higher models ! mind you I'd only get more bells and whistles seeing as I have 3 monos hooked up!

FittyFieFo

Ice House is nasty, but other then that..I'm happy with my system

MSALLA

Good luck with your rig.I'm going to bypass the icehouse and hit some Golden Monkeys tonight.

FittyFieFo

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HARMAN-KARDON-AVR-347-7-1CH-HOME-THEATER-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ170137361332QQihZ007QQcategoryZ14981QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is this one better then the Yahama?

AndyGwis

I thought you pulled the trigger on Solid's Yammy? If you've already agreed, you should go through with the deal and try it out on your gear.

If you end up not liking it, resell for the same price and try something else out. Hard to say what would be "better" than the yamaha unless you know what you like / dislike about the yamaha.

The Yammy is a much better deal.

icehouse1

Sorry Zombie, I stopped drinking a long time ago.

FittyFieFo

Yeah I bought the receiver from Solid, I was just wondering.

But anyways, I got another question! Sorry guys...

I use my xbox for watching DVD's... My XBOX goes through my TV. (My TV is pretty old, but it's a 27" tv, which is all I need for my room.) (Not digital or anything)

But...do I need any of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220139228488&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us
This link, hooks up my computer to my polk rti's...(these wires plug into my receiver right?)

Then:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170123564109&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007
(This one is for xbox)

Do I need one for TV to Receiver Monster Cables? (If so, what is it called?) RCA? or something like that

Dennis Gardner

The computer to receiver cable is correct, but the bottom cable linked is component video (3 separate cables for picture alone) and your TV most likely won't accept this. You are limited by your TVs inputs, check out what is on the back of your TV before buying cables.

FittyFieFo

Do these Monster Cables make a difference? And which ones do you recommend then? For the XBOX to TV to Receiver (To make a difference in sound or even in picture?)