RTi12 vs. RTi10? - If money is no object...

fayoub

Since the RTi Series are on BLOWOUT! sale, which model would you buy if the difference in price is no object?

I'm looking at the 12's vs. the 10's. One other thing to consider... I already own a set of 10's with a CSi3 Center. I'm thinking of somehow incorporating the 12's into my system.

mantis

I perfer the sound of the Rti10's. The Rti12 are just 2 damn big .

Dan

RuSsMaN

Same here, I could have done either - the 10's are my favorite out of the lineup. Daily drivers here.

Early B.

Go for the 12's. There's no such thing as a speaker being too big, only rooms being too small.

RuSsMaN

That's an ignorant statement if I ever heard one.

Choosing the 12 because it sounds good is one thing, choosing it because it's the biggest RTi - well I guess size over sound for some.

Cheers,
Russ

Early B.

He already has the 10's and he wants the 12's. So why would I suggest to him a pair of speakers he already owns? Let him try the 12's.

I prefer to encourage fayoub to determine for himself whether the 10's are better than the 12's. Or not. For the price, he really can't lose.

Ern Dog

I prefer the 10's over the 12's. While your at it, you might as well get a Csi5 too.

ben62670

Drivers can be too big. I prefer smaller faster drivers to large drivers any day especially if you are using a sub. The fast attack is cleaner than with larger drivers.

danger boy

i would stack the 10's on top of the 12's. but that's just me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

or build a fort out of them.

Meeks32

ben62670 wrote: »

Drivers can be too big. I prefer smaller faster drivers to large drivers any day especially if you are using a sub. The fast attack is cleaner than with larger drivers.

Myth that has been busted.

fayoub

I think I may need to re-evaluate the 12's because my receiver probably doesn't have enough juice to really make them sing. I'm guessing the 12's need alot of power to really bring out the best in them? I don't know, maybe they would be fine without upgrading the receiver.

What a dilemma...

MillerLiteScott

I had the 10's and they need more and better power than a receiver can offer. IMHO.

Yashu

The 10s or the 12s can fill a pretty damn large room with sound with the right amount of power.

Hell, with enough amplification and the 12s, you might be able to live without a sub...

MADGSF

Agree with Yashu, I know with a solid amp my 10s kick out a lot of bass. Not as much as my sub but nice and the 12s go lower. However I think with either speaker, 10 or 12, you will need an external amp to get the most out of them. Also if your receiver has preouts don't upgrade it berfore trying a good external amp.

Onac

I am kind of in a the same situation as the OP. Places are blowing out the Rti12s out for below $800 a pair.

I already have the 10s hooked to a Denon 4308ci (140w) and I do have a pair of Outlaw 2200 monoblocks (200w) lying around. At first I didn't want to use the monoblocks due to lack of rack space but I might ditch my CD changer to make room. If I do add in the monoblocks will I hear an improvement with the 10s over the 140w Denon bi-amped? I was also thinking that if I am going with the monoblocks I might as well step up to the 12s. Is 200w enough for the 12s?

My current sub is a Polk 505 (nothing major) and I am 75% HT/25% music. My room is 14'x22' and is open on one side to another room.

Any opinions would be great. Thanks

MADGSF

I would try the monoblocks with your 10s since you already have them. I have never heard the monoblocks but would expect to hear a difference. 200 quality watts is plenty for the 10s and I suspect the 12s as well.

Systems

I run the Monoblocks on my RTI12's and Im usually left with the opinion they need more (specifically on the bottom 3 7" woofers). Note: Fot HT, just the Outlaws are fine. The best setup I had was when I biamped them with my Onkyo Amp (not AVR, seperate). That Onkyo Amp has a volume knob so on my avr I set the gain +10db and put the Onkyo on the top and the monoblocks on the bottom. I then turned down the top to match the rest of my speakers. This finally allowed those bottom 7 woofers to pound pretty hard. I set my Xover on the front between 40 and 60 (not 80 THX).

Them rti12's would sing gloriously (for music)!

You do need a larger room, my rti12's were to large for my old setup and they are just about right for my new one.


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cfrizz

beautiful, nice setup Silverti!

Sherardp

Silverti I see you got that room in order and its looks damn good bro. The only thing missing are the dual SVS subs and the velodyne SMS-1. Lets see those screenshots of Resistance on the PS3, also Rti12s get my vote. Just run them on high power amps.

Systems

Sherardp wrote: »

Silverti I see you got that room in order and its looks damn good bro. The only thing missing are the dual SVS subs and the velodyne SMS-1. Lets see those screenshots of Resistance on the PS3, also Rti12s get my vote. Just run them on high power amps.

Well, I’d like to at least get another Outlaw sub for the pair to replace that 10+ year old Energy.

I was just listening to my RTI12's in 2.0 then 2.1 with the xover at 40 in stereo on the monoblocks, the bass wasn’t all that bad at all. Sure it didn’t dig deep deep deep but you know, it sounded like it should like we listened to 15+ years ago when we didn’t have these fancy subwoofers