cd player issues

NeilGabriel
NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
edited July 2007 in Troubleshooting
My Carver cd changer has had a problem since I got it (used). When you hit start, it goes to the selected cd, almost always recognizes the cd and lights up the number of tracks, track 1 flashes, and then I wait for the timer to light up and the cd to start playing....and wait.....and waaaaaaait. Sometimes 30-40 seconds maybe more...sometimes, I move to a different disc and that might kick it in. Is this something I could fix or is some microprocessor shot? I did clean the lens. Thanks...when it plays, I really like the sound.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited July 2007
    I take it you have one of the changers? I have a PSD-36b 10-disc changer which I understand is the "commercial" version that some broadcast companies used. So far, it works like a champ and I haven't even cracked it open to clean it. I guess if it ain't broke, blah blah.

    Now on the other hand, I also have a DTL-200 single disc that is in perfect condition other than it won't play a disc! It will load/unload (I replaced the belts) but it just won't "see" the disc and it's been cleaned. So, during a Sunfire training our company had with Bob Carver awhile back, I mentioned it to him and he told me to send it to him for checkout. It's been out there a couple of months as I am in no rush for it. I like it because it has the same look as the C-1, M-1.0t, TX-11 setup. It would be a bonus for it to work, too.

    You might try Roland at carveraudiorepair.com about it. I see from his list that my 10-disc changer is on the list of "repairables". I would assume that the other version would be, too (TLM-3600), unless they have something different internally about them. I like mine...I pretty much listen to it exclusively. Sorry I can't be of any more help than that.
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  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    avguytx wrote: »
    I take it you have one of the changers? I have a PSD-36b 10-disc changer which I understand is the "commercial" version that some broadcast companies used. So far, it works like a champ and I haven't even cracked it open to clean it. I guess if it ain't broke, blah blah.

    Now on the other hand, I also have a DTL-200 single disc that is in perfect condition other than it won't play a disc! It will load/unload (I replaced the belts) but it just won't "see" the disc and it's been cleaned. So, during a Sunfire training our company had with Bob Carver awhile back, I mentioned it to him and he told me to send it to him for checkout. It's been out there a couple of months as I am in no rush for it. I like it because it has the same look as the C-1, M-1.0t, TX-11 setup. It would be a bonus for it to work, too.

    You might try Roland at carveraudiorepair.com about it. I see from his list that my 10-disc changer is on the list of "repairables". I would assume that the other version would be, too (TLM-3600), unless they have something different internally about them. I like mine...I pretty much listen to it exclusively. Sorry I can't be of any more help than that.

    I took it apart and straightened out some transistors and other doo hickies that looked that someone sat on them. I also blew a lot of compressed air around and in the vicinity of the laser. Of course, it now seems as if it is working better, but I am sure that is coincidence...I guess for $100 used, I just need to put up with the hiccups.
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2007
    The dirty lasers are the norm for reading errors.
    engtaz

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  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    yeah...well I didn't get it fixed...it is going in the rig where I least play cd's...it must be a processor....it reads the cd's fine most of the time, it just doesn't want to engage...maybe captain kirk would stop by for a famous "engage"
  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited July 2007
    That sucks. I'm glad (and thankful) mine is rolling on along for now. It gets a little picky on some CD's but they have to be pretty marred up for it to want to mis-track.
    Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2007
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    I actually have a used rotel single play on order (older model)...when I hear refurbished, I think public restroom....in a down and dirty beer bar....
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2007
    I usually consider them better because the have been fully tested unlike the one's that came of the line and they tend to fix known probably. I have had not problems with my referb's.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2007
    I have had a few older late 80's to mid 90's NAD CD Player that a couple of them had this problem. Your problem sounds like mine.. great sound when it reads the disc, but it takes sometimes as much as 30 seconds to start the music.

    Sometimes I have to advance to the next track just to get it to play. it bites.. but you can't beat the sound for what I paid for it. Something like $18 a couple years ago. NAD are also notorious for their displays going out... so i got that to deal with too on one of them.

    I had two NAD ones that were the same model number. one would play burned CD's while the other one would not. very odd.
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  • WolfKiyoshi
    WolfKiyoshi Posts: 96
    edited July 2007
    do what i do :D find the screws that adjust laser voltage and turn them slightly while playing a cd most of the time that'll fix the problem.. same fix many used for ps2 DREs
  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    do what i do :D find the screws that adjust laser voltage and turn them slightly while playing a cd most of the time that'll fix the problem.. same fix many used for ps2 DREs


    and where might one find said screw? under the hood..... on the circuit board....near the laser itself....it all depends.....thanks for the suggestion.

    inside the guts, there were 3 pieces of metal that plugged into the circuit board....and they each ..a couple looked dinged up annd they had a little flap/flange...they were silver and about 1 1/2" square. One of them ran very hot....they looked like they might be intended to dissipate heat since they seemed not to be an electronic component....this make any sense?
  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    do what i do :D find the screws that adjust laser voltage and turn them slightly while playing a cd most of the time that'll fix the problem.. same fix many used for ps2 DREs

    if this isn't a cruel joke on a desperate audio junkie, do tell how to locate thie adjustment for the laser voltage....I'll send you a signed copy of Terminator 2 (signed by me of course)....
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    It's usually a laser pick up or the actual tracking assembly. I have a cdp that does the same thing and they are not ususally user fixable unless you know what you are doing.

    If it's old enough parts won't be available or they will be ridiculiously expensive. Depending on the age it may not be worth fixing because today's comparable player is considerably cheaper.

    Rarely, if this type of issue happens, is it just a matter of moving "doo hickies" or cleaning the lens. Are these regular cd's or cdr's that are giving you trouble? Many older players have difficulty playing cdr's.

    Bottom line, sounds like you need a new player. If you have reputable repair shop you could pay the $35-50 troubleshooting fee to see exactly what the problem is, but it's probably not worth the cost of repair.

    Good luck

    H9
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  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited July 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's usually a laser pick up or the actual tracking assembly. I have a cdp that does the same thing and they are not ususally user fixable unless you know what you are doing.

    If it's old enough parts won't be available or they will be ridiculiously expensive. Depending on the age it may not be worth fixing because today's comparable player is considerably cheaper.

    Rarely, if this type of issue happens, is it just a matter of moving "doo hickies" or cleaning the lens. Are these regular cd's or cdr's that are giving you trouble? Many older players have difficulty playing cdr's.

    Bottom line, sounds like you need a new player. If you have reputable repair shop you could pay the $35-50 troubleshooting fee to see exactly what the problem is, but it's probably not worth the cost of repair.

    Good luck

    H9


    Regular CDs. Not sure I have put a CDR in it. This is a Carver from either late 80s or early 90s. Once it starts playing, it never skips or hiccups...and plays well--good SQ. It is usable in a backup system if you are willing to wait half a minute or so for it to kick in, which it will do 90 percent of the time. Once it starts, it moves on to the next disc and plays without issue (mostly).

    Thanks, H9