Air Circulation Around AMPS/AVR

auto_pilot
auto_pilot Posts: 256
edited June 2007 in Electronics
I had a little discussion with the guy who sold me my AVR. He said that the AMP required about 8-10 inches of clearance all around the Receiver:confused:

However, most real world setups don't have that much clearance on the sides let alone the top of the receiver.

How many of you guys have that much air clearance around your receivers?
I know some of you guys are running high powered amps that heat up quite a bit.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited June 2007
    It is always good to have breathing room. I used to have an AVR in a wall unit with very little ventillation so I cut out the shelf above it and installed my own fan from Rat Shack, made the ARV very cool.

    Remember to pull hot air from it rather than bow air into it.
    V
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    Thank V...

    I'm already planing on installing a fan of some kind...I just need to figure out which side to place it...so that I don't blow heat back into the unit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,815
    edited June 2007
    You should have at least 4 or 5 inches of clearance at the top, the sides are less important with an AVR since they don't have external heatsinks. If you have it in a cabinet and still think you need a fan, put it in the back panel, so that it draws the air/heat out of the cabinet.
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    You should have at least 4 or 5 inches of clearance at the top, the sides are less important with an AVR since they don't have external heatsinks. If you have it in a cabinet and still think you need a fan, put it in the back panel, so that it draws the air/heat out of the cabinet.

    Cool...Should the fan be placed behind the AVR but facing the rear of my cabinet as to blow out? Or should it be attached to the panel in the back and blow toward the AVR?

    I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,206
    edited June 2007
    Place it in the back and have it suck the hot air out, You can also place it on top and suck the hot air out. This works best.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited June 2007
    How about not re-inventing the wheel and just provide adequate space around the gear. Adding a fan can and will add noise.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited June 2007
    Define "adequate space". I have an open-style audio rack that provides a great deal of air flow, so heat isn't an issue with me. That said, 8 to 10 inches on the sides, rear, and top? That sounds a bit extreme.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited June 2007
    Adequate space = Locate in an area that meets or exceeds the manufacturers requirements.

    If the manual for your gear says 8-10 inches clearance on top, then that's what is needed.

    BTW, anyone care to post up a copy of their manual that specifies 8-10" clearance on the sides, I'd like to see that.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,815
    edited June 2007
    I agree with Frank and would just like to add that the proper clearance is dependent on what gear one is using. Obviously, tube amps, SS man amps and anything running pure Class A need alot of open air.
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    Frank Z wrote: »
    Adequate space = Locate in an area that meets or exceeds the manufacturers requirements.

    If the manual for your gear says 8-10 inches clearance on top, then that's what is needed.

    BTW, anyone care to post up a copy of their manual that specifies 8-10" clearance on the sides, I'd like to see that.

    Wrong measurement system...10 cm = 4 inches approximately..my bad:) Current clearance is 2 inches.

    I have an elevated niche that makes things tough with my setup (it's about 5 ft high)...so if I move shelves up, it makes it hard to reach the DVD player...
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  • just_visiting
    just_visiting Posts: 40
    edited June 2007
    http://www.imagestation.com/members/604Area
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+

    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited June 2007
    just_visiting wrote: »
    http://www.imagestation.com/members/604Area
    :confused:

    Looking at the pic the first thing that pops into my mind is ....












    SNAKES!!:eek:




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  • just_visiting
    just_visiting Posts: 40
    edited June 2007
    I know the wiring sucks but it will be cleaned up when I have the time.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+

    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5
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  • Jockos
    Jockos Posts: 310
    edited June 2007
    My Yamaha receiver has only 2-3 inches on top and it does get hot, I am planning to build a seperate cabinet with more cooling. My 2 channel system with adcom amp has about 8 in on top and still gets hot, that being the adcom runs hot. By the way are you a aviator?
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    Jockos wrote: »
    My Yamaha receiver has only 2-3 inches on top and it does get hot, I am planning to build a seperate cabinet with more cooling. My 2 channel system with adcom amp has about 8 in on top and still gets hot, that being the adcom runs hot. By the way are you a aviator?

    No...just love to drive, and drive fast on occasion...and I drive a lot:D

    Here is the fan I found...I think this does the trick:

    http://www.electronicscooler.com/?gclid=COnulZiU_owCFSaXhgodAHyE9A

    Until I find a better rack...or do some type of built in rack system.
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    just_visiting wrote: »
    http://www.imagestation.com/members/604Area

    In the second pic of the slide show it looks like the components below the Plasma are tilting dangerously:eek:
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  • just_visiting
    just_visiting Posts: 40
    edited June 2007
    auto_pilot wrote: »
    In the second pic of the slide show it looks like the components below the Plasma are tilting dangerously:eek:

    Everything is safe. Its the way I took the picture.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+

    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5
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  • auto_pilot
    auto_pilot Posts: 256
    edited June 2007
    just_visiting wrote: »
    Everything is safe. Its the way I took the picture.

    I thought it was the angle...makes for cool effect though.
    Cambridge Audio AZUR 640R
    KEF IQ2C Center, Fronts KEF IQ1 , Rears KEF Ci302Q
    Sub Outlaw LFM2
    Panasonic Plasma 1080i (50u)
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    Belkin Pure Audio PF31 Line Conditioner
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