New 2 Channel Rig

sophie

haven't had time to get a pic been to busy listening to them:p

with this equipment in the perfect listening room what kind of sound stage and imaging could i expect to get out of everything?

RuSsMaN

You should get a large soundstage, and a centered stereo image - it's the placement of instruments within the soundstage that won't be spot on - smeared if you will. The RTA 12 had a cascaded crossover, much like the CS and LSi center channels do today, and didn't have this issue.

Cheers,
Russ

MacLeod

sophie wrote: »

on the back of the cdp there are 2 sets of rca's 1 labeled balanced and 1 labeled unbalanced. in the manual it says that the one labeled balanced is effected by the volume control, and that it can be used without a preamp.

Unbalanced is a connection where there are two conductors, signal and ground. Since ground is the reference, each of the two signals has a very different impedance when compared to the reference. As long as there is no noise in the connection then unbalanced works just fine.

Balanced is a connection using a 3 wire cable in which has two signal wires and one ground wire. The 2 signal leads have the same impedance as the ground. This is the most "noise free" type of interconnection.

Also the 2 signals in the balanced wire are out of phase with each other and this is why you have to have special gear to run them. So if you were to run unbalanced RCA's thru the balanced outputs this may account for your image seeming "out of phase". I dont know for sure but its just a thought.

heiney9

RuSsMaN wrote: »

Due to sales, they probably were. At CES I sat down with Matt, Al, Paul, Stu.....well, you already heard my paraphrase above.

Perhaps horrible is too harsh, how about a 'less than ideal' design? Is that more PC for the Monitor 10 crowd?

Cheers,
Russ

Gotta agree Russ, a "best" seller no doubt but overall a suspect design compared to other Polks of the day. But they are still many times better than most other manufacturer's competing lines of the day...........and that says a lot.

reeltrouble1

I will agree to an extent about a bit of smearing with the 10, but it is a rock speaker, jazz or light rock/classical the 7 which is another great speaker and arguably the best of the lot depending on what music is being played.

Matt is a bass hound, he liked the bass of the 10's just like many others, which he said made the 10 his overall favorite.

I understand his HT has three or four momo's built into the floor and had to be strengthened structurally to prevent the wave pressure from damaging the building. At least that is/was the rumor.....if he ever got that house built.

.......a meeting with Stu, now that would of been a smoked filled event back in the day.

RT1

sophie

well now that i have time i can't find the camera...

i guess ill try again tonight

sophie

i have been listening to music to much.....if you can;)

now that XC has started and school starts on Monday :eek: i figured i would get this done. i am getting a smaller bed in a week to make more room for audio so i hope to move everything over to the long wall on the left of the pics. srry about the mess, i have been playing settlers a lot with my friends so thats y the card table got put up here then my computer died and i built a new one so stuff has just been stacking up waiting to find a home.

Payton

edit: pics to big will resize and try again

sophie

big pics...
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6348/1001270rk3.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9053/1001274za7.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8396/1001273cm0.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/9880/1001272oq7.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3235/1001275vv8.jpg

small ones






edit: apparently image shack resized them so the big ones are not big

engtaz

Nice setup Sophie. I like the all Adcom components. Congrats

ND13

RuSsMaN wrote: »

Monitor 10's don't image very well to begin with. It's a horrible design to have the drivers side by side playing exactly the same frequency range. Polk knew it, but the general public loved them and most chose the bigger bass and increased power handling of the 10's, over the stable imaging of the 7's.

Cheers,
Russ

And Bingo was his name-o!!!

Music Joe

sophie wrote: »

i have listened to it for 4-5 hours and it doesn't have much of a sound stage and doesn't image very well. is this because of how it is set up or is there something that is holding the rest of the stuff back? using th

and what is the best setup, speakers from walls, speakers from eachother, listing spot from speakers?

Just a start based on the posted images.The tall dresser between the Polks is a soundstage and depth killer.
If you could put the electronics on some open framed rack and bring the speakers out into the room.Try various toe in, but most importantly remove the large square wood box from between them.
The dresser right of the right Polk forces the whole set-up closer to one wall.
Could it be moved to the opposite corner? The folding card table is just temporary I assume?

wingnut4772

Music Joe wrote: »

Just a start based on the posted images.The tall dresser between the Polks is a soundstage and depth killer.
If you could put the electronics on some open framed rack and bring the speakers out into the room.Try various toe in, but most importantly remove the large square wood box from between them.
The dresser right of the right Polk forces the whole set-up closer to one wall.
Could it be moved to the opposite corner? The folding card table is just temporary I assume?

Yeah...that room...well it's not set up ideally I would imagine. Speakers need to breathe a bit. Some more than others.

sophie

ya the table will be gone when i get a chance to clean my room.

JimBRICK

just keep tweaking sophie you'll find the right spot

treitz3

sophie wrote:

after more listening i have noticed that if the singer is centered almost everything else comes from the left of that. is that normal?

On certain recordings, yes. On all recordings, no. Are you 100% sure all drivers are working? [put your ear about 2" away from each driver]

Definitely lose the table and anything else between you and the speakers. Also, try letting the speakers "breathe" a little bit by moving them away from the dresser I would say 6-8 inches. You would benefit a better soundstage in your limited area by also moving your speakers toward you, to where the front of the speaker is closer to you than the dresser. I also notice that you have not turned your speakers to be pointed directly at your listening spot, which is, I am assuming approximately where you took the photo that includes the table.

All of the aforementioned will have an influence on the soundstage and imaging and if you re-read everything in the above paragraph and follow instructions, I have a feeling you will realize what you are missing out on.

Good luck and please keep us posted as to whether or not it worked in your scenario.

snow

At a minimum pull the speakers forward of the dresser 6 inches or so, It appears to me from pic 4 that the speakers are actually behind the face of the dresser in the middle now, an inch or 2, That will absolutley kill any soundstage

REGARDS SNOW

sophie

they are about 2" in front of the dresser.
the table is right on top of my listing spot. i have been listing to it as background music mostly lately wail i use my computer (left of pic 2)

i don't have much to do today so i think i might clean my room and get a lot of that crap out of here.

Payton