Suggustions for int amp 1000-1500

VR3

Give Klaus a call - I'm sure he can figure something out for ya....

Chicomoralessxm

Ok i will look into that with klaus. Anyone else has any further suggustions?

AudioFilet

You might want to take a look at Emotiva RSP-1 & RPA 1.

I'm seriously considering these myself. Nice stuff.

Chicomoralessxm

Zero i was not by any means set on odyssey was just considering it as an option. my budget was more like $700

Chicomoralessxm

Chicomoralessxm wrote: »

Ok guys i've open to any suggustions you can give on a solid int amp around $700. Definately with pre-outs) I was leaning for separates but well finances....need i say more. I will be pairing it with a pair of opera mezza's can't tell you much about their sound traits till i get them and give them a solid workout! So far these these are the options i've come up with.

1) Within my budget or under CA640 or CA540, Vincent Audio SV-129 Rotel RA-1062
2) Close to or a little over Creek Evo, Nad C372
3) Really pushing it Rega mira3, CA840 Vincent sv-226

What i find really tempting for the price, features and convience is the outlaw2150 seems hard to beat! I'm looking for something preferablely new. Oh and i will prob be adding a pair of era d5 and or dynaudio 52's or epos 12.2's in the near future. Any suggustions guys?

How do these options i mentioned above sound? what's the best option within my budget next best option over my budget?

Bill Ayotte

I like the Nad and the Rega, for over budget I would look into a used krell or Musical Fidelity...

Chicomoralessxm

Ok guys just another name to add to the mix Audio Analogue (AUDIO ANALOGUE Primo Settanta).....do any of you guys know of them. Are they any good. I'm just thinking italian electronics paired with italian speakers?

dorokusai

That's a very nice brand. I had some excellent demos on that gear at CES.

hoosier21

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatran&1200348318

hurry

Chicomoralessxm

dorokusai wrote: »

That's a very nice brand. I had some excellent demos on that gear at CES.

I know a dealer just brought some opera mezza's from him so i'll see he can hook me up an extra special price! hopefully i'll some cash at the end of the month for that. Just bought my stands. I'm saving up for that modded odyssey amp from klaus.

Chicomoralessxm

hoosier21 wrote: »

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatran&1200348318

hurry

Looks nice but for that amount i could get this Audio Analogue new. Do you know the seller?

Chicomoralessxm

Opps i think i'm mixed up the two lines of AA the Primo with the Compositori my bad.

Chicomoralessxm

Cool never heard of them reading up now

hoosier21

Chicomoralessxm wrote: »

Looks nice but for that amount i could get this Audio Analogue new. Do you know the seller?

I do not

LuSh

Just a crazy thought; rather than confuse yourself further and take advice from people who aren't in the business, perhaps you'd be best to get professional advice from a dealer who can provide you with a system that has true synergy. You will have countless suggestions thrown your way, but most components benefit from system synergy. Or you can continue with the approach you're taking and probably start gear hopping for the next 5-10yrs.

LuSh

Zero -


I would be willing to bet whatever little retirement saving I have that any two channel dealer left in the market place will know on average how to assemble a better sounding system then 95% of people who post on this forum. Most people think they can assemble a better system then a person working in audio retail for 20-30 years; quite simply they're wrong. Older more experienced people might have a better handle. There is something to be said for experience and in-store demos.

A lot of suggestions that were posted within this thread won't work together. A person might buy great individual pieces but the system as a whole might fall short. A dealer has help not only from experience but from the manufactures themselves who will often point out synergistic matches. Most dealers of Krell will often carry Aerial Acoustics, many Dynaudio dealers carry SimAudio or Plinius, this isn't by coincidence. Cable lines are often catered to the electronics the dealer carries. I'm not saying every dealer out there is perfect, but if I'm a betting man and a person would rather buy a system once and possibly upgrade slowly I'd always recommend a dealer over internet recommendations. Unless you truly love gear collecting and flipping. I use to represent this demographic, but alot of people still just want the experience and the core values of what they love - the music.

Yashu

I love my NAD C320 BEE, so if the C372 is a better version of that, I would have to vote for it...

Dude, you need to hear the c372 or a c162/c272 combo, I was f'ing amazed at how terrible the line stage in my c350 was when I heard them... c320bee uses the same deal... only the c370/c372 had a real pre in there. NAD makes probably the best budget amps around, and their separate pre is really good too... You could spend the money on the c162/c272 combo, the separates are even better than the c372, not my much though, but would give you better upgrade paths. Can't think of a better value when buying new (if you have the money, that is). If you can't drive your speakers with the c272, then you have some big **** speakers, my friend. (EDIT: see you are looking at bookshelves, so no sweat)

Or.... the used market has so many great integrates... Check out Jolida, or a used MF, Krell, (or even NAD, then save some bucks for something else you want), adcom sells cheap powerhouses too, then there is Creek, and then Arcam, I always wanted to check them out. Or go vintage... Sansui made some of the best vintage components out there, dual mono construction in many of their integrateds from the late 70s, you just wouldn't get a remote... Mcintosh too, but they are just as expensive used as new.

LuSh

Zero -

It's obvious from your insights that you've been a dealer in the past, rep or otherwise.

I disagree completely but respect your opinion.

Chicomoralessxm

Well this has been most intresting. In essence i can say that i truly benefit from both of your prespectives. As both of you know (zero and lush) This hobby, is truly a subjective one. At the end of the day its the ears that make a difference right? The are many dealers out there who just would sell you anything you know the story of the salesman who sold the bald guy a comb? But i've come across a few that are most helpful. Some simply in answering questions. Granted not everyone on these forums is an audio guru but thats what these are about sharing ideas getting suggustions its all about people like who dont know getting a little insight from some of you who do.......and when i can sharing what little i know or think i know with those who like me dont lol

Yashu

Zero, I was lead badly wrong twice by a dealer, and a 3rd time didn't go so well either... The best thing to do is trust your ears... I fell into the trap of "well he does this for a living so he must know what he is talking about" and then I get speakers that tear my ears apart or sound like they are playing through a musty sock.(He eventually found me a good deal, so it's all good)

Dealers are good... I like to support them, since our hobby is fading, but trust your ears above all... if you are willing to plunk down over $1000 dollars on something... I doubt the dealer will mind you bringing in some CDs and getting things setup for you to try out different products, or even taking it home to test in your room.

But sometimes you run into that one ****, a dealer... a real ****, I was in this place because I wanted to hear a specific B&W speaker, and I listened, but he refused to turn off the sub, and he wouldn't let me play my test CDs, then, he had the **** nerve to make a joke about my appearance and assume I had no money and had no intention on buying anything ever... an acoustic panel fell off the wall while I was listening to their crappy test disc and almost hit me, and he said "That is a trap for people that don't buy anything". I walked out with my money in my pocket. Some hoser poked in the mids and the tweets of their $20,000 nautilus speakers, so they obviously don't run a very tight ship anyway...

So, I have been to very good dealers that will basically roll out the red carpet even for a guy like me, and I have been to ones that don't deserve to be in business... but I will tell you the one thing that has been in common during all these years, every dealer I have been to, I have brought the same set of ears.

Chicomoralessxm

Now we have children in the room yashu no need for such language

Yashu

What do you mean? Are you trying to tell me that I cannot arrange letters in a certain way? That does not make sense. I do not see in the TOS, a list of letter combinations I am not allowed to say.

Please write for me, all the letter arrangements I must avoid for the sake of the children. If you feel that I, or, all of us, must avoid certain vocabulary, it would be nice to know exactly what combinations we must write around.

AndyGwis

I'd say the big F is probably the only word that might be frowned upon (but not officially prohibited or anything). All others are probably fine if used sparingly. Just go with fu#& or effing or something and people will know what you mean.

Back to the thread topic, I saw a Classe I100 ntegrated for $800obo on Agon that sounded like a great deal. I even emailed to guy to inquire as the price seemed great.

Yashu

I use F'ing here... the other words I usually say. I recognize that there are "sensitive" people out there that overreact to certain combinations of letters... I said the dealer was an **** because he really was. The sad part is it is the only store in the city that sells B&W, and the CM-1s are pretty damn good bookshelf speakers. They also are the only store I know of that sells Mac gear... but anyway, it was probably a fluke, because if he treated me that way, then he probably treated others that way and was "dealt with" by being let go. Most of the time I have had, at least, very accommodating experiences, even if what they recommend doesn't work out.

One guy, the owner of an ultra high end store, took personal time to deal with me, when his usual business is selling $20,000 speakers and $10,000 dollar tube amps, and he took lots of time to setup an auditioning session for speakers that I can afford, and went out of his way to track down something from Bryston that didn't cost more than a couple hundred. Another guy wanted me to bring in my own amp and DAC to his store so I could better compare my amp to one that I was thinking of getting... I thought that was pretty cool.

I think the OP should really consider the c162/c272 combo, even though he wants an integrated, I don't see a better value for the money out there. He might only be using bookshelves now, but with this setup, he could easily grow to most any speaker, plus the c162 has a good MM/MC phono section, and so there is a respectable path to vinyl.

Chicomoralessxm

Ok guys my 1st pair of speakers are on the way not sure if you have heard of them the Opera Mezza's. Right now i'm trying to decide on amplification.
Within my present budget i'm looking at that are available to me listed price wise:
NadC352
Arcam A65
CA640v2
Rotel RA-1062
CreekEvo(can get a good deal)

Later no doubt i'm going to add an external amp so that amp should have a nice preamp section. Presently i'm using hk3380 which is ok but I plan to give that away with Paradigm mini's. The speaker's i'm looking at arent to efficient. Would gladly like to hear you comments? Do these options sound ok?

Chicomoralessxm

Any thoughts guys?

george daniel

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

A used Manley Stingray is in your budget and will go a long way toward Nirvana.

RT1

Oh yeah There is/were a couple on a'gon,well within your price range.

Chicomoralessxm

i'm looking for something new...But thanks for the suggustion.