tonight i will compare Oppo DV-970HD vs Jolida JD100

kolyan2k
kolyan2k Posts: 259
edited June 2007 in Electronics
My setup is: Rotel RC-1070, Polk Lsi9s, Outlaw Monoblocks, and Martin Logan Dynamo subwoofer (set to less then 50%)
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited May 2007
    Should prove to be interesting.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    I'm all ears on this one...

    Hey, you'll need to change out the Jolida's stock power cord...








    (just kidding)
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    "God grooves with tubes."
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2007
    I can't wait for this one!!!
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited May 2007
    i'll be short on this one cause me and my buddy have headaches after 2 straight hours of listening and switching. and i must say that both of us are not audiophiles, we just like nice components and nice sound.

    well, maybe there is a difference, and MAYBE Jolida is better. is it $1000 better HELL NO, is it $500 better, NO. for 2 hours of listening to Marantz Demo CD and some Jazz neither I nor my buddy could really 100% tell the difference. and on a blind test with the same song playing on both units, out of 6 tries my buddy got 3 wrong.

    I really wanted to like Jolida, but i cannot justify the price difference and therefore once and for all i quit comparing CDPs and I will stick with my $150 Oppo and $850 in my pocket.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    kolyan2k wrote: »
    i'll be short on this one cause me and my buddy have headaches after 2 straight hours of listening and switching. and i must say that both of us are not audiophiles, we just like nice components and nice sound.

    well, maybe there is a difference, and MAYBE Jolida is better. is it $1000 better HELL NO, is it $500 better, NO. for 2 hours of listening to Marantz Demo CD and some Jazz neither I nor my buddy could really 100% tell the difference. and on a blind test with the same song playing on both units, out of 6 tries my buddy got 3 wrong.

    I really wanted to like Jolida, but i cannot justify the price difference and therefore once and for all i quit comparing CDPs and I will stick with my $150 Oppo and $850 in my pocket.

    Consider it a blessing to not be able to tell much of a difference.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,804
    edited May 2007
    I think for me...

    Buying the CDP I have was more so to make sure that all my components were on the same playing field. And even now, my CDP is the least expensive component in my system.

    However, I will say it is just like any other upgrade, it makes a minimal difference, but its like getting that 1 second on a race car - it can mean win or lose... you just have to decide how much you are willing to spend to get that extra second.

    Cool finds man, glad you dig the Oppo. I paid $150.00 for my Cambridge Audio 540D (DVDP) and I would say it can hold its own against my Shanling....

    But.. like I said, 1 second. ;)
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2007
    Great review :rolleyes:

    If you all got headaches from two hours of listening, your problems are probably deeper than a cd player.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,804
    edited May 2007
    Be nice to the lad hahhaahha

    Jeeeeeeeez

    Dont YOU get headaches from your system after 2 hours?????? ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited May 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Great review :rolleyes:

    If you all got headaches from two hours of listening, your problems are probably deeper than a cd player.

    ...listening to the same cd without relaxing and switching cables back and forth is annoying. i can listen to music all day if its pleasant
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited May 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Great review :rolleyes:

    If you all got headaches from two hours of listening, your problems are probably deeper than a cd player.

    I would have to agree.....My bedroom setup is just the NAD C320BEE I bought from Doro, a Carver 490t, and the Sansui tuner I bought from Joe, with a set of B&W600i's making noise...I don't have a headache after 5+ hours of listening, much less 2...I am almost considering trying a SVS sub for the HT rig and moving the Sunfire Super Junior to the bedroom just for kicks......I am pretty sure this "hobby" will be the death of me....I already know it is the reason I am single...:D
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited May 2007
    I would have to agree.....My bedroom setup is just the NAD C320BEE I bought from Doro, a Carver 490t, and the Sansui tuner I bought from Joe, with a set of B&W600i's making noise...I don't have a headache after 5+ hours of listening, much less 2...I am almost considering trying a SVS sub for the HT rig and moving the Sunfire Super Junior to the bedroom just for kicks......I am pretty sure this "hobby" will be the death of me....I already know it is the reason I am single...:D

    sorry. word < headaches > should be in quotation marks.

    after all, i am listening to music right now. :)
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited May 2007
    p.s. i am sure most people on this forum and outside of it would want to prove me wrong. but this is just something i did for myself after countless hours of reading reviews about different CDPs and thinking about buying one.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,804
    edited May 2007
    We are just giving you a hard time.

    Rock on.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    Don't sweat it.

    BTW -- what was the associated gear you used for the review -- speakers, amp, preamp, etc.?
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    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited May 2007
    I can get headaches from too much digital edge myself.

    For all the great things the Jolida did it still sounded too digital to me. With the upgraded stock cord and ei elite tubes the resolution and dynamics also increased, making it sound more digital, mechanical, and fatiguing. IMO of course.

    Don't stop the A/Bing as it can be a lot of fun and interesting.

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    BTW -- what was the associated gear you used for the review -- speakers, amp, preamp, etc.?

    Check the first post.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited May 2007
    Sweet!

    Great review. You've made it easier for me to go buy an Oppo.

    Thx!
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2007
    I've A/B'd the Oppo's DAC against the Oppo's transport w/Timbre DAC and the Timbre DAC kicks daylights out of the Oppo's DAC. So far everyone who has been here and I've run that same test, agrees, maybe not the kicks daylights out of it, but they agree the Timbre DAC sounds much better, more like an analog recording.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,815
    edited May 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Great review :rolleyes:

    If you all got headaches from two hours of listening, your problems are probably deeper than a cd player.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,249
    edited May 2007
    kolyan2k wrote: »
    is it $1000 better HELL NO, is it $500 better, NO.
    Depends on what you want to achieve.

    Headaches/2 hours/deeper/CDP. Yes.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited May 2007
    I also have a stock JD-100 and a stock oppo 970. I A/B compared the Oppo against the Jolida and 4 outboard DAC's (DPA Renaissance Bigger Bit, Lite Audio DAC68, AR DAC 1, and Adcom GDA-700) in my 2-ch rigs (all SS, all tubes, or SS/tube mix). The difference was quite obvious. To my ears, the oppo is on par of the Toshiba 4960 which had some rave review of it's 2-ch reproduction, but not quite at the Jolida's level or any of the DAC's. The Oppo is of great value but just isn't my choice for 2-ch listening. So, the oppo remains in the HT to do what it does the best.

    -fredv-
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited May 2007
    Sweet!

    Great review. You've made it easier for me to go buy an Oppo.

    Thx!

    if you are not a serious audiophile, thats the way to go
  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited May 2007
    kolyan2k wrote: »
    i'll be short on this one cause me and my buddy have headaches after 2 straight hours of listening and switching. and i must say that both of us are not audiophiles, we just like nice components and nice sound.

    well, maybe there is a difference, and MAYBE Jolida is better. is it $1000 better HELL NO, is it $500 better, NO. for 2 hours of listening to Marantz Demo CD and some Jazz neither I nor my buddy could really 100% tell the difference. and on a blind test with the same song playing on both units, out of 6 tries my buddy got 3 wrong.

    I really wanted to like Jolida, but i cannot justify the price difference and therefore once and for all i quit comparing CDPs and I will stick with my $150 Oppo and $850 in my pocket.


    The oppo is a dvd player that plays cd's right?
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2007
    Yes, it's the latest of the 'budget' players that has gotten some good reviews for CD playback, and a writeup in Stereophile.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • jrlouie
    jrlouie Posts: 462
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Consider it a blessing to not be able to tell much of a difference.

    I agree. Consider it a blessing. You can utilize the cheaper player and be content knowing you have the player for you.

    I too have the Oppo and Jolida and the vocals on the Jolida totally pop out more to me. It kind of gives me that sound like I'm chilling in a small room listening to a band play some tunes. More like the singer is right there in front of me. Considering I got one for $600, the price was worth it to me. I enjoy listening to music more on the Jolida.
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2007
    For all those keeping score....

    Oppo - 1
    Jolida - 2
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited May 2007
    I bought the Oppo 970HD strictly for its video component upconvert hack (since my RPTV has no DVI/HDMI/VGA). And, secondarily, as a backup universal player, in case my other players brick out. I am rather surprise to read how Stereophile raved on the audio quality of this player. I guess I might have to hook it up to check it out myself.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    polkatese wrote: »
    I am rather surprise to read how Stereophile raved on the audio quality of this player. I guess I might have to hook it up to check it out myself.

    Stereophile is full of ****.
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    "God grooves with tubes."
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Stereophile is full of ****.


    LOL, the problem is that they were using a $9000/ft IC with the Oppo to get that great sound....

    Doesen't everyone?
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited May 2007
    polkatese wrote: »
    And, secondarily, as a backup universal player, in case my other players brick out. I am rather surprise to read how Stereophile raved on the audio quality of this player.

    I bought an Oppo for this same reason. Needed a DVD player, and thought it would make a decent backup if I was in transition between CDP's -- which is currently the case. The best I can say for it is that it is "servicable", but not much else. It definitely leaves much to be desired in my set-up and is the major weak link in my system.

    As for the Stereophile review... it was praised as an excellent transport and not much else. Even the reviewer couldn't bring himself to trumpet its praises when used as a standalone player.
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