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Pepi28
Pepi28 Posts: 248
edited April 2007 in Speakers
Does anyone know how the VR4jr's are compared to LSi15 speakers? I am debating upgrading my LSi15's to VR4's but don't know if there is a noticable improvement in sound. If so are they good for HT? I am thinking about buying them within 6 months or so.
58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
LSi15's front (modded xo's)
LSic center
LSiFX's sides
LSi7's rears
Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
PS3
Wii
Signal and Audioquest ic's
12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
Belkin PF60 power conditioner
Monster power conditioner for sub
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited April 2007
    IMO the VR-4jr is the better speaker. BIG difference in SQ. They are good for HT but you need to feed them plenty of clean power to get what they are capable of. Get your ears on a pair and see for yourself. Yours is the only opinion that matters. Good luck :)
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    The VR4 Jrs are a HUGE step up from the LSi15s.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Pepi28
    Pepi28 Posts: 248
    edited April 2007
    Then it looks like I will be buying them sooner than I intended. A few months hopefully. My wife is going to kill me when I buy them but I guess I can offset the price a little bit by selling my LSi speakers. I'll put them up for sale here soon I hope. I figured they were a much bigger step up just didn't want to jump the gun without any one else's thoughts. Thanks for the input.
    58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
    LSi15's front (modded xo's)
    LSic center
    LSiFX's sides
    LSi7's rears
    Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
    Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
    Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
    SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
    PS3
    Wii
    Signal and Audioquest ic's
    12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
    Belkin PF60 power conditioner
    Monster power conditioner for sub
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    That's what I did. I sild my whole LSI set up to Faster 100 (MIA). You will love the Vons. I do recommend getting a nice amp for that speaker as well.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited April 2007
    I keep hearing about this HUGE difference... I see a HUGE difference in price too!

    Can't wait to hear them soon!
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    I keep hearing about this HUGE difference... I see a HUGE difference in price too!

    Can't wait to hear them soon!

    Yes. They are about 3X the price on the used market. The LSI 15s are a great speaker for the money.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • cstpeter
    cstpeter Posts: 387
    edited April 2007
    I'll fully recommend the VR4jr. One of the most transparent speakers I've heard at that price. I went from Martin Logan Aeon i's to the VR4jr, and I thought that was a huge step up.

    I've only owned the LSi9, never the LSi15--it really isn't fair to compare either to the VR4jr. I LOVED my LSi9, but the VR4jr's are kinda on a different level.
    Von Schweikert VR4-jr
    Valve Audio Predator
    Denon DVD-2900
    PS Audio Digital Link III w/Cullen Level IV Mods
    Pro-Ject Xpression w/Blue Point No. 2
    Graham Slee Special Edition 2
    PS Audio UPC-200
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2007
    These speakers are simply amazing. Although I have not heard the VR4JR, I have heard the rest of the lineup (don't remember model numbers) at shows and they were amazing speakers.
    polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
    polkaudio 255c-RT Inwalls
    polkaudio DSWPro550WI
    polkaudio XRT12 XM Tuner
    polkaudio RM6750 5.1

    Front projection, 2 channel, car audio... life is good!
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  • cstpeter
    cstpeter Posts: 387
    edited April 2007
    appadv wrote: »
    These speakers are simply amazing. Although I have not heard the VR4JR, I have heard the rest of the lineup (don't remember model numbers) at shows and they were amazing speakers.

    Yeah, but you might have heard $50,000 speakers. The VR4jr are the third or fourth from entry-level...but that said, I'd love to hear the full lineup. I hear the VR-11 might be the best speaker in the world.
    Von Schweikert VR4-jr
    Valve Audio Predator
    Denon DVD-2900
    PS Audio Digital Link III w/Cullen Level IV Mods
    Pro-Ject Xpression w/Blue Point No. 2
    Graham Slee Special Edition 2
    PS Audio UPC-200
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited April 2007
    cstpeter wrote: »
    I hear the VR-11 might be the best speaker in the world.

    Even Mark Schifter of AV123 admitted this to me over dinner... I'd say the chances are good that it may just be one of the best, if not THE BEST, in the world. Supposedly better than even the Alexandria X2.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited April 2007
    cstpeter wrote: »
    I'll fully recommend the VR4jr. One of the most transparent speakers I've heard at that price. I went from Martin Logan Aeon i's to the VR4jr, and I thought that was a huge step up.

    I've only owned the LSi9, never the LSi15--it really isn't fair to compare either to the VR4jr. I LOVED my LSi9, but the VR4jr's are kinda on a different level.
    1. Having heard Chris' setup, I will agree that the VR4jr sound better than his Aeons did in his new place.
    2. The 9s are not near the VR4, and the LSi15 is not as accurate as the VR4 is with regards to the majority of the bass/midbass/midrange.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Pepi28
    Pepi28 Posts: 248
    edited April 2007
    I have 2 Sunfire Sig. amps powering my LSi's. They should be fine running VR4's. Higherfi.com is sellng a pair of them with the surrounds and center and sub which I will ask them to remove the sub to lower the price a bit for about $7k new. That looks like a pretty good deal that I might jump on soon.
    58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
    LSi15's front (modded xo's)
    LSic center
    LSiFX's sides
    LSi7's rears
    Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
    Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
    Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
    SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
    PS3
    Wii
    Signal and Audioquest ic's
    12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
    Belkin PF60 power conditioner
    Monster power conditioner for sub
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited April 2007
    Very :cool: What finish do you like?
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited April 2007
    cstpeter - Can you let me know if you are still planning to attend the Chicagoland PF & if so are you bringing anything with you?

    Send me an email please.

    Sorry for the derail :o
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    Halo wrote: »
    Very :cool: What finish do you like?

    The African Hazlewood is very nice...but I really like the maple as well.


    oh...you mean what does HE like? he he:p
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited April 2007
    My VR-2's were in African Hazelwood - B-EAU-TI-FUL
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    I think the African Hazlewood sells for a bit more used also.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Pepi28
    Pepi28 Posts: 248
    edited April 2007
    I was thinking african hazelwood too. It goes better with the rest of my furniture and the wife likes the color too.
    58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
    LSi15's front (modded xo's)
    LSic center
    LSiFX's sides
    LSi7's rears
    Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
    Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
    Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
    SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
    PS3
    Wii
    Signal and Audioquest ic's
    12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
    Belkin PF60 power conditioner
    Monster power conditioner for sub
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  • no-cure
    no-cure Posts: 48
    edited April 2007
    The Von Schweikert speakers are very superb!! Many years ago I have had the pleasure of listening to a setup consisting of VR-4 SR MKII powered by the Linn Majic products and I have yet to listen to anything better. On a few occasions I have also listened to Sonus Faber and JM Labs both powered by Mcintosh, which they come very close in musicality, but I think they both exceed VRs look...they look more refined and not as boxy, IMO

    I hate to say it though, but the VR-4JR sound much better than the LSI15s, which I currently own. Typically speaking though, the VR products are known for superior characteristics in the music, but I can't say how well they do in HT; after all Albert Von Schweikert did work with Eric Clapton, Pink Floyd and Ray Charles in their recording studios. Btw, look into upgrading the JR into MKII edition, it provides better overall frequency response and a higher damping factor. This almost makes them close to the Virtuoso line...
    Analog:
    Polk Audio LSI 15s (cherry) - Fronts :D
    Polk Audio LSI C - center
    SVS PB12 Plus Piano Black!! (on its way) - sub
    BoseFX - surrounds

    Digital:
    Panasonic 61" Rear Projection LCD
    Parasound Halo A52 :D:D
    Yamaha RX-V1600
    Denon DVD3910
    Monster Power 1600 Line Conditioner
    APC 1500 Smart UPS

    Blue Jeans and AudioQuest Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 Remote
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  • criverajr
    criverajr Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2007
    Pep,

    i live in Jersey and would be interested in the 15's let me know.

    CRj
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  • Pepi28
    Pepi28 Posts: 248
    edited April 2007
    I'll let you know when I decide to part with them.
    58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
    LSi15's front (modded xo's)
    LSic center
    LSiFX's sides
    LSi7's rears
    Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
    Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
    Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
    SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
    PS3
    Wii
    Signal and Audioquest ic's
    12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
    Belkin PF60 power conditioner
    Monster power conditioner for sub
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  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited April 2007
    criverajr wrote: »
    Pep,

    i live in Jersey and would be interested in the 15's let me know.

    CRj

    Why did you get rid of yours :)

    needless to say, but I was enjoying your 15s last night ;)
    -izafar

    Goldenear Technology Triton 1 - Benchmark AHB2 - Benchmark LA4 - Auralic Vega - Auralic Aries Mini - Marantz TT-15S1 - Clearaudio Nano
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  • criverajr
    criverajr Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2007
    Izafar,

    I went with inwalls and they sound fantastic, but would like a pair for the living room flanking the fireplace, as I can wire them from mt HT room as a second zone, with little to no wire exposure. Sorry fir the hi-jack.

    CRj
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