denon AVR-1706

tonyb

Easy on that volume dial hombre.You don't want to start a thread about
blown tweeters do ya ? Enjoy your new stuff !:)

98thumpin

how can i blow my tweeters if im only pushing 85 wpc and the speakers are rated at 275 watts max.

McLoki

From your friends at about.com

Q. Will My High-Powered Amp Blow My Speakers
From Apply Now,
Your Guide to Stereos.

A. Many people wonder if an amplifier can blow their speakers when delivering full power to the speakers. The short answer is "No." The long answer is "well, if your amplifier is high-quality, you are OK." With power-handling, a higher rating is like almost everything else: more is always better. A speaker might have a minimum requirement for power handling, based on its sensitivity and performance, but will most likely have a maximum allowable amount.
A speaker with a 100 watt power handling rating can be safely operated when connected to a 500 watt amplifier. The speaker is not going to explode or anything like that. The truth is that high amplifier power almost never destroys a speaker. In most cases, it is a lack of amplifier power that causes damage. The key is to use your speakers with an amplifier that produces sufficient output to drive the speakers to realistic sound volumes without distortion, or "clipping."

Clipping occurs when the amp is asked to deliver more current to a speaker than the amp is really capable of doing. When an amplifier clips, it literally cuts off (or ... clips) the tops and bottoms of the musical waveforms that its trying to reproduce. This phenomenon introduces a huge amount of distortion into the output signal, and it is that distortion that kills speakers. The maximum power-handling amount stated on a speaker basically assumes that the amplifier is going to "clip" or start to produce distortion at its maximum output. So, if you use a low-quality amplifier, it will start to run out of gas at its max output, and might do damage to your speakers.

A high-quality amp usually produces ample power without clipping and thus it avoids the introduction of speaker-killing distortion.

Edit - for a much more technical description. Look here.

TroyD

98thumpin wrote:

how can i blow my tweeters if im only pushing 85 wpc and the speakers are rated at 275 watts max.

Essentially, when you are blasting away...your receiver is going to start sending spikes of DC that will fry your tweeters.

Enjoy.

BDT

98thumpin

i didnt know that. so is it safer on my speakers to run them at high volume with more power.

Sherardp

98thumpin wrote:

i didnt know that. so is it safer on my speakers to run them at high volume with more power.

With clean high current power, you wil be fine. As in using a Power Amp.
Just curious, have you tried listening to your system minus the EQ? Have you tried using the EQ settings within your AVR thus far?

McLoki

98thumpin wrote:

i didnt know that. so is it safer on my speakers to run them at high volume with more power.

A more accurate way of saying it would be:

"When listening to your speakers at high volume, it is safer to do so with a higher power amplifier than a lower power one."

cfrizz

Why hasn't anyone ever posted this before???? Well I will be from now on when the question comes up, since I have saved it to my hard drive.

It's going to save a lot of time & typing!!!:D

Thanks Michael.:)

McLoki wrote:

From your friends at about.com



Edit - for a much more technical description. Look here.

98thumpin

The eq isnt hooked up its just for show, and i listen to my system in analouge mode. i dont like the way the preset eq's sound.

98thumpin

McLoki wrote:

A more accurate way of saying it would be:

"When listening to your speakers at high volume, it is safer to do so with a higher power amplifier than a lower power one."

Ah i gotcha higher power means less chance of power spikes cause the amp isnt working as hard.

98thumpin

which means longer life for both.

98thumpin

Can anyone suggest a good quality amp that puts out 200 wpc rms cleanly for under 1000 if not suggest brands and ill look in the used market.

Deadof_knight

You can find an adcom 555 or a carver tfm-35 for around 250-350 all day everyday, Good bang for the buck in my opinion.

98thumpin

what kinda power do they make

98thumpin

Should i just amp my front left and front right at 200 wpc or should i bi amp the fronts, and amp the other channels with a 100-150 wpc amp, im going with monitor series bookselfs the m-40's as surround speakers.

also can any one reccomend a center channels that while go good with these speakers. I had thought about a cs-2

Sherardp

Sounds like you have a good plan, just try letting the power amp run everything, if you dont like the sound, you can go and try biamping. As for the center the CS-2 is a good choice. When connecting your power amp, try to use a good audio interconnects, blue jean, signalcable, audioquest,bettercables.com you get the idea. What amp are you considering?

98thumpin

Sherardp wrote:

Sounds like you have a good plan, just try letting the power amp run everything, if you dont like the sound, you can go and try biamping. As for the center the CS-2 is a good choice. When connecting your power amp, try to use a good audio interconnects, blue jean, signalcable, audioquest,bettercables.com you get the idea. What amp are you considering?

Well id love to have a Nakamichi PA-7 or two of them eventually to power my monitor 70's. That would be good for me when i listen to music in 2 channel stereo mode. I just love the way those amps sounded. But for now i may go with adcom, or something equilevent 200 wpc. a good used amp and then eventually add another amp cause i want to bi amp my fronts. then when i get the rest of my speakers, run them with the reciever untill i can run them with a 5 channel or 7 channel amp. and maybe eventually bi amp them as well.

98thumpin

What is a good affordable cable to use is monster cable any good there cheap on e bay. but i want a good cable with out having to pay 50 bucks or more for them.

98thumpin

any good affrodable cables out there?

engtaz

Bluejean cable and monoprice.com cables

98thumpin

ok ill give them a look