DVD Copy

jakelm

I have been making copies of the movies I buy for some time now. I ussually make a copy for watching and save the original in my collection.

I use DVD Fab, Clone2 and DVD Clone. These softwares have worked flawlessly for me in the past but now with the new copy protection software on the disk, I am having problems. I get an error almost everytime, saying this dvd has a copy protection error and cannot proceed.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Some disk just fly through with a breeze and others I cant save at all.

Any ideas?

Jake

BaggedLancer

Be tough to get a valid response to a question like this on this forum since it is illegal in most cases to copy dvds(not so much in your case).

For the most part, it's a trade secret with most people, just google it


EDIT: Better yet, heres something to try. Take the original DVD, and put it on top of the blank DVD and rub the 2 discs together.

PolkThug

Try DVD Shrink.

jakelm

I was hessitent to ask this, I know how dvd copying is a very touchy subject.

But to my knowledge, I am doing a very leagel thing. Keeping the copy for myself..not distributing it ..not reselling it. Its purely for my own ussage. To my understanding of the law, it is not illeagal to make personal "back up" copies of dvd's owned, or is it?

But I undertsand if some dont want to get involved in subjects like this..

BaggedLancer

what's your email i'll foward you something later, i have to go to class now

jakelm

sent you a pm Bagged.

jkn

That's the idiotic thing about copying dvd's - even if it's for your own use as a back up - I believe it's technically still illegal.

I really want to make "compilations" of some of our dvd's we watch often.

I tend to like to fall to sleep to Andy Griffith - my wife prefers Leave it to Beaver. I'd love to make a compilation of favorite episodes going back and forth between shows. (feel free to poke fun at the Andy Griffith/Beaver thing... I'm used to it...). I'd also love to make 'play all' versions of the early MASH seasons - it's not until about season 5 that they figured out adding 'play all' would be a good thing.

I've had DVD Shrink recommended before - I might give that a try one of these days.

jakelm

Before I started copying a few years ago..I read the law. It is very shadey in what is leagal and what is illeagal.

My kids damage movies like a train wreck. I would mainly copy the movie for that purpose only.

But now it looks like that is no more with the new copy protection software on the new dvd's.

PolkThug

The law is black and white on copying movies. If you copy even just part of a movie, it is illegal, regardless of use.

jakelm

I didnt know that pertained to movies I own? I thought backing up a movie you own was leagal?

jakelm

Ah well. If thats the law, it isnt worth getting in trouble over.

PolkThug

jakelm wrote:

Ah well. If thats the law, it isnt worth getting in trouble over.

wuss

jakelm

PolkThug wrote:

wuss

I am..LOL.:p

Refefer

jakelm wrote:

I am..LOL.:p

Come on, don't you like big fines and prison?

jakelm

Refefer wrote:

Come on, don't you like big fines and prison?

LOL NO...You?

jsoh7424

Anydvd will defeat any encryption I've come across. Just run it in the background with dvd shrink, and you shouldn't have any problems

PolkThug

jsoh7424 wrote:

Anydvd will defeat any encryption I've come across. Just run it in the background with dvd shrink, and you shouldn't have any problems

I think you've won the new Lurker Award. One post every 3 years!

jakelm

PolkThug wrote:

I think you've won the new Lurker Award. One post every 3 years!

Alot of reading, he does.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I've not run across anything yet that DVDFab Decrypter and the occasional use of VOBBlanker won't handle...

AnyDVD is also nice.

For the encoding, it's best to use a true encoding engine like DVD Rebuilder+CCE as opposed to a transcoding program like DVD Shrink (although DVD Shrink is very nice and handy if you don't need alot of compression.

Check out www.afterdawn.com, lots of good info there.

I believe PolkThug is correct in that it's illegal to make backup copies of movies you own, technically according to the law. Let's just say I'm more of a 'spirit of the law' guy vs a 'letter of the law' guy.

Having said that, there's not a 'backup' copy of a movie that I have that I don't own the original for.

Roy Munson

I believe that it's perfectly legal to back-up software that has been legally purchased as long as it's for your personal use and not sold or redistributed.

Get AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 and use it in conjunction with CloneDVD2.

Edit: RipIt4Me is a nice freeware decrypter that works well.

scottvamp

Its not the copying software, its having a realiable constantly updated decrypter that is the key. One the best was mentioned above. Sony likes to stump'em. But loves to sell everything you need to copy.

jakelm

Roy Munson wrote:

Get AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 and use it in conjunction with CloneDVD2.

Excuse the stupidity here, but what to you mean "in conjuction with"? I have always just used one program at a time. I never had to use 2 at one time.

jakelm

Roy Munson wrote:

I believe that it's perfectly legal to back-up software that has been legally purchased as long as it's for your personal use and not sold or redistributed.

And thats what I understood as well.

ledhed

AnyDVD runs in the background and removes CSS and other copyrights in the background. So, when Decrypter or DVDShrink view the file, it appears that there is no copyright.

It is NOT ILLEGAL to backup copies of movies you own. It IS ILLEGAL for the company to not allow you to make personal backups. As long as the backup is not being used at the same time as the original, it is ok. You own a complete copy and the content on the disc to view at anytime you wish and you own the rights to do whatever you want with it as long as you are not personally benefiting monetarily from it.

If you really get stumped, go to the Doom9 forum at http://forum.doom9.org/

scottvamp

jakelm wrote:

Excuse the stupidity here, but what to you mean "in conjuction with"? I have always just used one program at a time. I never had to use 2 at one time.

Read my post. Many have a seperate decrypter. Let me guess, having a problem with Saw III or Open Season.:rolleyes:

jakelm

scottvamp wrote:

Read my post. Many have a seperate decrypter. Let me guess, having a problem with Saw III or Open Season.:rolleyes:

Yep...:eek:

ben62670

Roy Munson wrote:

I believe that it's perfectly legal to back-up software that has been legally purchased as long as it's for your personal use and not sold or redistributed.

Get AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 and use it in conjunction with CloneDVD2.

Thats what I use with great success, quality, and simplicity.

jakelm

Ok..so just start anydvd and run it in the background and run clone just like I would regularly?

scottvamp

Make sure you update to 6.1.1.4

PolkThug

ledhed wrote:

It is NOT ILLEGAL to backup copies of movies you own. It IS ILLEGAL for the company to not allow you to make personal backups.

Do you have a court case or a new law that supports your claim?


As soon as you use any of the above software to break CSS, you are violating the DMCA, even if you own the original DVD.

ledhed

PolkThug wrote:

Do you have a court case or a new law that supports your claim?


As soon as you use any of the above software to break CSS, you are violating the DMCA, even if you own the original DVD.

I was speaking of past knowledge which I did not really look into. From what I understand, it is illegal to even break the copyright. Though, the law was passed in 1998 and actually seems to still pertain to CDs also. Wow. I paid for the damn content, it is mine to do as I please as long as I am not reselling or presenting to the public. This really gets me fired up to finish college, become a producer and change all this! (Hopefully :rolleyes: )