How can I use a Outlaw 2200 monoblock

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2007
    cfrizz wrote:
    Good grief, you sure like making something nice and simple terribly complicated!

    my thoughts exacly Cathy.. so I'm not giving anymore advice.. i wanna see how this ends though. ;)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    my thoughts exacly Cathy.. so I'm not giving anymore advice.. i wanna see how this ends though. ;)
    + 2 (or is it +3 by now...)

    It will be interesting to see how it turns out, but it has now been made complicated enough I am not sure what is trying to be accomplished.

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited February 2007
    To try and clarify a little what has been said before...

    A monoblock will do nothing but power one speaker. That is, in place of your receiver. When you're using the monoblock, the receiver now only acts like a preamp or a processor, receiving the signals from your source (CD player, DVD player, radio, and so forth), processing them (like if you're watching a movie), and then sending the signal to the amp for the amp to amplify and then send along to your speaker.

    I guess it is more common to just have one monoblock per speaker, but it's really not unusual to bi-amp a speaker, meaning, have two amps power one speaker, in the case of monoblocks. Like if you had two monoblocks per RTi12, you could use an RCA splitter to split the output signal from your Marantz reciever and then send each one to one of your monoblocks, and then hook up each monoblock to a different set of binding posts on the back of one of your RTi12. Repeat for the other RTi12.

    Bi-amping is, in my book, really cool. 400 watts per channel? Sweet! However, like some have already said, if you don't already have four monoblocks, your money would be better directed at buying a higher-quality stereo (2-channel) amplifier for your RTi12's.

    Watts isn't the definitive word. Outlaw makes nice, solid, reliable, powerful gear. However, for the same price of 4 MM2200 monoblocks, you could buy a nicer, higher-quality, better-sounding stereo (2-channel) amplifier. Even if it isn't putting out 400 watts per channel, it still may very well be a nicer, better-sounding amplifier.


    Now, it would be beneficial if you told us what your end goal here is. Why are you wanting to use two receivers? What are you wanting to accomplish?

    You never use two receivers or two preamps or two processors in a single system. If you want a stereo (2-channel) system, you have one receiver or preamp that will handle two channels. If you want a surround sound system, you use a receiver or preamp that will handle however many channels you want to have. However, you never combine receivers or preamps to reach the desired number of channels.


    I hope at least some of that made sense. If not, or if you have any more questions...ask!

    :)
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    ++ * ++




    Ok: + is a Rti8 speaker
    * is the sw.


    I want two speakers right channel, and two speakers left channel on STEREO. By that need 2 amps. Why is so complicated? For that I need 4 MB.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited February 2007
    Ok. Now we know what you're going for. Basically you're recreating turbobusa's system, except with RTi8's instead of RF-7's.

    Yes, two monoblocks per channel would be a good way of going about it. You would hook everything up basically how I said you'd do it if you were bi-amping RTi12's, only each monoblock would go to a different RTi8.


    Now, why are you wanting to do that? That's a very poor way to go about setting up a stereo system.

    In case you haven't already seen turbobusa's thread, you should check it out. Several people chimed in there and explained why a system like that isn't quite optimal.

    See thread here
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    4 front speakers for stereo sound?:confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,020
    edited February 2007
    You guy's are a real glutton for punishment man.:)
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited February 2007
    If you get about 24 speakers (that's 12 per channel!) you can put them in a circle and have surround sound :p
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited February 2007
    dkg999 wrote:
    If you get about 24 speakers (that's 12 per channel!) you can put them in a circle and have surround sound :p

    ...and to even it out you'd have to add 5 more subs. :rolleyes:
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited February 2007
    jmwest1970 wrote:
    ...and to even it out you'd have to add 5 more subs. :rolleyes:
    :D :eek: :D Not to complicate things or stir anything up here, but how many more recievers does he need for the 24 speakers and 5 subs? LMAOOOOO
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    Thanks audiobliss.

    I will try stack the speakers.


    * *
    * *


    *Rti8
    +SW

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited February 2007
    Stacking them like that will be muuuuch better. Hopefully you'll be happy with the sound.

    When you try it out, let us know what you think!
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    I stacked two Rti8 and that is 230 cms more or less...ufff is not to me. BUT stacked a Rti8 and up the Rti6 and that sounds incredible to me. A need hear another few of days to be sure than that is I want..
  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    Ok, YES THAT IS....:D
  • ILeigh
    ILeigh Posts: 4
    edited April 2007
    A revelation - I didn’t think I would gain the effect of the redistribution of power, I simply thought the power per channel was dedicated. And the Receiver would only perform the decoding.