How can I use a Outlaw 2200 monoblock

Tequila
Tequila Posts: 104
edited April 2007 in Electronics
I don´t know how can I use a monoblock, the outlaw 2200 would be fine to my system. How can I play my receiver Marantz with this monoblock?
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited January 2007
    Does your reciever have pre-outs? (rca jacks in the back (near where your subwoofer is hooked up) that say right, left, center, etc.)

    If so - pick your channel (proably center if you only have one monoblock) plug the RCA jack on your AVR marked center into the input on your monoblock. Unplug the speaker wires from the speaker out named center on your avr into your monoblock.

    Turn everything back on - adjust the sound level of the center channel if neccesary - and you are off and running.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2007
    Does your Marantz have anything on the back labeled "Pre Outs?"

    If so, you're in business. Just plug and RCA from the corresponding "pre out" to the input on the monoblock. Plug the corresponding speaker cable into the monoblock, not the receiver.

    You'll need to do some calibration which can be found in your marantz user manual or downloaded online. Easy peezee.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited January 2007
    If it doesn't have pre outs or you don't want your outlaw...I'll buy it from you I need 1 more ....or 2 more to complete my system.
    I am currently using the only one I have on my centre.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited January 2007
    Ok, yes, my marantz has "preouts" and with a RCA wire from that to the monoblock and after the speaker wire on the monoblock. Right?

    Thanks.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited January 2007
    Yep - just that easy. (don't forget to check the volume of that channel when you are done to make sure it does not go up or down from the AVR setting)
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited January 2007
    I'd recommend that you purchase 2 more and setup a HT.;)
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited January 2007
    ok, friends, thanks all.

    Outlaw is a great trademark....¡
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    receiver Marantz 85 w p/ch
    +Monoblock 200 w p/ch
    = 285 w p/ch? Is that real?
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    No. The 85 of your Marantz is not being used since your amp is doing all of the work That 85 will be redistributed to your other speakers.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    ok. Can I use two monoblock for each speaker? To be 400 w/ch? How?
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    Why would you want to Tequila? Why make things more complicated? 200wpc will do your speakers just fine. If you really want 400wpc look into getting a Sunfire amp.

    But your speakers will not draw more than the wpc listed in the specs. It will just have plenty of headroom for loud passages.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2007
    Tequila wrote:
    ok. Can I use two monoblock for each speaker? To be 400 w/ch? How?

    you can't use two for each speaker.. each monoblock (Outlaw 2200) is for one speaker only... so each one of your speaker if you desire can use one of the monoblocks. your subwoofer does not need a monoblock or other amp. it has one built in.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    thanks.

    Then is not very important my receiver? Or is important buy anotther receiver? Well, I think not....If the monoblocks send the power is a great difference with another receiver?
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    Tequila, as long as you are happy with the fonctions in your receiver, there is no need to buy a new one if you will be using the monos as your power. So if you like the way your receiver works and offers you enough inputs and options . then keep it ! Your outlaw(s) will be mor than enough juice for the time being.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    ok, I understand now...with my MB Outlaws, the receiver is only that..."receiver" but not gives me power....In fact is not intelligent buy another one..

    Thanks Willow.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    Are the monoblocks outlaw (200 w/ch) enough to drive the fronts RTi12?:confused:
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2007
    Yes - but you will need 2 (obviously)
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    McLoki wrote:
    Yes - but you will need 2 (obviously)
    A total of two to clarify just in case. guess he could bi-amp the 12s...
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    Tequila wrote:
    ok, I understand now...with my MB Outlaws, the receiver is only that..."receiver" but not gives me power....In fact is not intelligent buy another one..

    Thanks Willow.

    Right the receiver is now just the brains and your outlaws become the muscles..so it's like having Stephen Hawkins and Popeye.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    ha, ha, ha
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    Ok...

    2 monoblocks for the right speaker and 2 monoblocks for the left speaker is a good idea? Bi-MB2200 is intelligent?:eek:
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2007
    While it is an available option - I would say rather than purchasing 4 amps to drive 2 speakers, you would get better sound by purchasing a higher quality 2 channel amp.

    This is just my opinion and if you have 4 monoblocks lying around, you might as well put them to use. But if you have a budget that can afford 4 monoblocks - that same budget would get a pretty high quality 2 channel amp. Dollar for Dollar I think you get more (in that price range especially) getting a better 2 channel amp than 4 less expensive 1 channel amps.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2007
    Tequila wrote:
    Ok...

    2 monoblocks for the right speaker and 2 monoblocks for the left speaker is a good idea? Bi-MB2200 is intelligent?:eek:

    I don't think you get the idea of monoblock amps.. one monoblock amp for each speaker.. not two. ONE! if you have two speakers. you would need two monoblock amps. if you have 5 speakers.. you need 5 monoblock amps.
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited February 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    I don't think you get the idea of monoblock amps.. one monoblock amp for each speaker.. not two. ONE! if you have two speakers. you would need two monoblock amps. if you have 5 speakers.. you need 5 monoblock amps.
    I think he was talking about bi-amping a speaker using a monoblock. Personally I think that is silly, but I really don't have the experience to know better.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    guess he could do that or daisy chain them.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    Well, i think than bi-wired is a better idea. Only ONE MB for speaker and bi-wired.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2007
    I have 12s biamped using a outlaw 2200 and the AVR, sounds great. But if he just wants to run them with off an amp, as mentioned earlier a better 2 channel amp would be awesome, try Bryston. I always wondered what they sound like.
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  • Tequila
    Tequila Posts: 104
    edited February 2007
    If I have two different stereo receivers and use 2 monoblocks on every one to power 2 speakers from every avr...and the speakers are exactly the same. Is the same sound? Or I need buy antoher exactly same avr?:confused:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,020
    edited February 2007
    Different Receivers will get you ...well...different sound.
    Why would you want to do this?? 4 mono's can get costly.Are you shooting for 2 seperate systems?Use one receiver and split the signal if you want 4-speakers.Please explain what your goal is.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    Good grief, you sure like making something nice and simple terribly complicated!
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