Audio cables
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I find it funny! Someone puts in effort to evaluate something form him self and share it with us. And HE gets jeered for actually doing reasearch for him self. Insted of crusing the internet...being lazy...accepting the OPINION of others....I feel sorry for you lazy bums.....WAY TO GO DUDE...Keep having fun and keep enjoying something you like. I am happy you wife enjoys your hobby as well !:eek: From the bottom it looks like a steep incline, From the top another down hill slope of mine.:mad: But I know the equilibrium's there!:cool: .."Faith No More"
Sony cx985v (for now)
BBE 482i
B&K AVP 1030
Adcom GFA 555 mk 2
AudioQuest Crystal 2 spk wire
Nordost RCA
SDA 3.1 tl RD0 tweets
Belkin pf60
Carver TFM 55x
Signal Analog 2 RCA
AudioQuestType 4
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Hey, you know the Club Polk motto: "those who don't know, don't know that they don't know..."
The problem with most of the naysayers is that their systems probably don't have the resolution to exploit a cable change or upgrade. I'm not putting anyone down, I'm talking something as basic as bookshelf speakers. How are you gonna hear a tightening of lower bass in a book shelf? You won't, that's my point. If you are not running either a high-end integrated or seperates thru near full-range speakers, you may have difficulty hearing any differences in cables.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
mlhm5 wrote:"...experts are in agreement that most cables that claim to improve the sound of audio equipment don't. Even cables costing thousands of dollars per foot are often little more than sonic snake oil, experts say."
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/...es/23down.html
"you may choose to pay outlandish prices to get something that looks amazing, and demonstrates to everyone how much money you have, but it will not make a magical difference to the sound, there will be few (if any) real differences in the electrical characteristics, and it will sound much the same as "lesser" cables, selling at perhaps 100th of the price."
http://sound.westhost.com/cables.htm
"...all well designed interconnects sound identical."
http://sound.westhost.com/cablewhitepaper.htm
Yawn......"Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
This horse has been dead a long time and it continues to take a beating - people are just sick. :rolleyes:
I agree with Steve because I had a "basic" rig and never heard a difference in IC's or speaker cables. Therefore I didn't believe the cable / wire / IC "hype". Doro's cable swap program changed all that but only because I was upgrading my rig at the same time. As I upgraded my rig the differences between IC's and cables became more clear to me. YMMV.
It all boils down to this - do what you want to do. If it makes you happy that is all that matters.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
Halo wrote:It all boils down to this - do what you want to do. If it makes you happy that is all that matters.
I want to dance.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
I wonder if the government has any stats on different patch cables?
On a more serious note I just received my PBJ's in the mail today. They look very well constructed, nice jacks. The one thing that throws me off is they put a piece of shrink tubing on there with an arrow? You gotta be kidding me, are they claiming these things are directional? Anyway I will be trying them out tomorrow when the kids are gone.
Everyone have a merry Christmas
Ben
Venom seeing that we are near by we could do an A/B with strand verses straights.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
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My PBJ's had the shrink tubing, but weren't marked for signal flow direction...hmmm. I know my Hero's are not directional.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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ben62670 wrote:The one thing that throws me off is they put a piece of shrink tubing on there with an arrow? You gotta be kidding me, are they claiming these things are directional?
They're not directional in the sense that the "flow of electrons" creates a path of least resistance -- or "burn-in". I believe the arrow is used to indicate which end should be connected to the amp, as this end will be shielded to keep some amps from adding any hum to the signal.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
I had to take a further look at them after reading your posts. The black and blue are both soldered to the negative terminal at both ends.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
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ben62670 wrote:Venom seeing that we are near by we could do an A/B with strand verses straights.
We could do that. My most expensive IC is the Straitwire Encore 2. -
jm1 wrote:
The day you recommend a bottle of wine based on chemical analysis will be the day I purchase an interconnect cable based on its electrical characteristics.
I do believe everyone is entitled to verification that paying the high price for the cable will make a listening difference.
If you AB say 5 cables including your favorite cable a number of times, and can identify yours correctly 75% of the time then I think you have an argument.
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dudeinaroom wrote:sorry, not a new yorks times member(so I can't read it) and the other 2 links are broken, still a good way to back up your point that you have no idea what your talking about
Later,
dude
Here you go
http://www.bugmenot.com/ -
its assuring to know there is always someone willing to come along and set us straight.
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mlhm5 wrote:I do believe everyone is entitled to verification that paying the high price for the cable will make a listening difference.
That's what your ears are for. Any audiophool worth his weight already knows that.If you AB say 5 cables including your favorite cable a number of times, and can identify yours correctly 75% of the time then I think you have an argument.
I would be willing to wager no one can do this.
You're on. My house, my gear, my cables, my music. You can bring whatever cables you'd like. I'll nail mine 100% of the time. When I win, you owe me a SACD of my choosing.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I got a Jackson on the man with the perfect hair...
You said it Steve:
Those that Don't Know, Don't Know that they Don't Know...
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reeltrouble1 wrote:its assuring to know there is always someone willing to come along and set us straight.
RT1
You and I are beyond help.
I'm the cheapest SOB there is. If a $2 cable sounded just as good as a $200 cable....I'm all over it. Fact is....it doesn't.
And as far as a double blind test is concerned...I've done that as well...and could tell when a cable was changed 100% of the time and could usually tell which one it was. They were my cables...on my gear...with my music. I never saw a cable being changed....maybe it was or maybe it wasn't. I guessed right each time according to my assistant who made the changes.
It happened...I'm satified with what I heard...I know what I heard.
If you don't belive me....F you. I don't care."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
amulford wrote:
Maybe ignorance is bliss, it's damn sure cheaper...
LOL........ain't that the truth!!!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
The Home Owner's Cable Association is lurking and demands Verification.
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Eh, who cares.
An AK guy running around touting Kenwood, SAE etc gear as the end all be all. Not KNOCKING it per se but given that, it's likely that his ears or his gear (or both) don't have the resolution.
I always love folks who feel the need to puff up to validate thier choices...
BDTI plan for the future. - F1Nut -
mlhm5 just take a read. This is just what I have noticed, my opinions. I have no money invested, so I am not trying to justify money being thrown away
Kimber
straitwire
head 2 head
I was just asking for opinions on what might be a good starting point, not for a reason to disbelieve. I wanted to see if "I" could hear a difference, and you wanna hear something really funny........................I did.
later all,
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