Can someone please explain Ohms?

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited November 2006 in Electronics
I have two buttkicker mini LFEs which have a nominal 4 ohm impedence. My amplifier runs 100 watts at 4 ohms and 100 watts and 2 ohms. So I understand that I can run both the buttkickers on the amp, but would their performance be affected?
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited October 2006
    No, you should be ok, as long as the amp can handle 2 ohm loads.
  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited October 2006
    If your amp is rated 100 watts at both 4 and 2 ohms, it means it is not capable of putting out more current (as the wattage is not increasing with lowering of impedance). I will little concerned providing a consistant load of 2 ohms to this amp.
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  • seo
    seo Posts: 305
    edited October 2006
    P = I^2R

    100 watts into 4 ohms is 5 amps
    100 watts into 2 ohms is ~7.1 amps

    How do high current amps increase wattage as speaker load goes down?
    I know I've seen statements that tube amps do go down in power with reduced speaker load?

    Anybody have a quick primer on amp design? I know I may be looking at this in a simplified manner.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited October 2006
    Google it. There are at least 10 billion online tutorials on amplifier design and theory.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited October 2006
    seo wrote:

    How do high current amps increase wattage as speaker load goes down?

    An ideal amp will double the power as the impedance is halfed. For instance...
    100 watts at 8 ohms,
    200 watts at 4 ohms,
    400 watts at 2 ohms.
    Speakers: LSi9 x 2, LSic, LSiFX x 2, Velodyne HGS-15
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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited October 2006
    Seo, the basic answer is that another form of Ohm's Law is I=E/R(current equals voltage divided by resistance), so if resistance(or impedance)is reduced from say 8 ohms to 4 ohms current would theoretically be doubled if voltage could remain constant. From the form of Ohm's Law you cited(P=I(squared)R) it follows that if current is doubled and resistance halved, the net result is that power would theoretically be doubled. This full doubling is rarely the case in practice because the power supply doesn't maintain the necessary voltage and current and the power available into 4 ohms is increased by a smaller amount.
  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited October 2006
    John K. wrote:
    This full doubling is rarely the case in practice because the power supply doesn't maintain the necessary voltage and current and the power available into 4 ohms is increased by a smaller amount.

    This is exactly why i use a car amp with my lsi9 speakers. It can double the power all the way down to 2 ohms (and all the way down to 1 ohm if I unbridge the amp).
    Speakers: LSi9 x 2, LSic, LSiFX x 2, Velodyne HGS-15
    Amps & Power: Rockford Fosgate T8004 x 3, Cascade Audio APS-55 power supplies x 5, and 1 farad capacitor.
    Electronics: Denon 3806, Toshiba HD-A1, & Sony KDL46XBR2
    Accessories: Anti-IC interconnects, 8 Mondo Traps from Realtraps, and Salamander furniture.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2006
    It does not matter if the amp does not exactly double. If it gets close say within 25-50 watts or so on a 200 watt @ 8 ohm amp you have a quality piece.

    As suggested a google will offer many detailed explanations, but down and dirty, as the resistance is decreased more current (amperage) can flow down the line.

    RT1