building your own sub?

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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    The purpose is to get something i dont have louder and more quality I run 2 pair of s8 for speakers along with jbl rears in the wall and a velodyne 15 under my stairs.
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    Im running a carver tfm35 on the front subs a yamaha mx-830 on one pair of S8 and a denon 3000 receiver on the other pair of S8 and rears.
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    I had some major trouble with cancelation at first between my front subs and the 15 under the stairs man that took a while to fix
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    A pair or SDA srs 1.2 or 2.3 TLs is what I really want and Im working on it
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    Deadof_knight wrote:
    course im just rattling caus I need 25 post before i can post to the for sale forums I wanna buy some sda but hmmmmm having a hard time posting

    Wow, I hope your joking about that. This kind of posting is not recieved well on this fourm.
    Ofcourse if you plan on sticking around thats another story. Thanks for the info just the same but please don't just use our playground to push your sales items.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    How ever this will take agreat deal of patience
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    I first am not pushing for sales , I just want to make my 25 posts to one get in line to buy a set of sda that are on here I havent posted too much because I read the faqs and other threads on here and most of it is explained in great detail and require no questions. I do not want to ruffle anyones feathers here as I feal as if I of anyone here is a polk fanatic and have always been. If I am doing it the completly wrong way I apologize its just that a good deal requires that you act fast sometimes

    Russ Chennault

    PS my Apologies
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited October 2006
    Too me the sda line is the pinnacle of speakers they are too me a piece of furniture to be cherished and admired by all who arrive in your living room but the most important part is sound quality bar none !
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    I was giving you a heads up. If you want to see what happens look at a thread called "flea market" that was from the other day. I think everyone on the forum jumped on this guy. Those SDA's are sweet. I didn't see his per say but I know the speakers. Wish I had the room for them, They are alittle big to say the least.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    Has anyone ever used a driver from JL audio in a home sub?
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA wrote:
    Has anyone ever used a driver from JL audio in a home sub?

    It can be done, but most car audio woofers are built to sound best in the confines of the car.

    The key to home audio vs car audio subs is the actual distance that the woofer cone travels. Look for Xmax specs above 12mm to move enough air to pressurize your room.

    I built my Dual Adire Shiva couch sub as 2-5 cubic foot boxes under the couch with 38 inches of 4 inch ports. This tunes it to 17.5 hz which is great for HT, and I don't use it for music as I prefer full range SDAs for music.

    The best bang for your buck is DIY if you are going to use it yourself, but they are hard as hell to sell to anyone else since huge, heavy-**** homemade speakers don't sell well.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

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  • kingkip
    kingkip Posts: 401
    edited October 2006
    Think about an IB if you haven't before. Hands down the best bang for the buck, and if you like DIY it is a great project. Not for everyone, because of the logistics, but you won't find a better sub.
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited October 2006
    actuley the x max is not the problem of car subs it is the fs or the resedent fr of the car sub most are set at mid 30 and you get the last octavemy cabbin gane where in a ht it is all the woofer and verrylittle cabin gane
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,573
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA, if interested and if you are still looking for a driver, I still have a 12.1 SVS Plus driver for sale, $80 shipped to your door. There are a couple of people on the forum that have done a DIY with these drivers and seem to have had great results. PM me if interested.
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    I just got some sonotube off one of our job sites. It's only 16" dia. . Will this work for a 12" sub? I was going to do a box sub but since I have the tube looks like a sono sub.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    kingkip wrote:
    Think about an IB if you haven't before. Hands down the best bang for the buck, and if you like DIY it is a great project. Not for everyone, because of the logistics, but you won't find a better sub.

    Kind of new to this, whats an IB?
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA wrote:
    Kind of new to this, whats an IB?
    IB = Infinite Baffle Subwoofer

    IB FAQ
    MSALLA wrote:
    I just got some sonotube off one of our job sites. It's only 16" dia. . Will this work for a 12" sub? I was going to do a box sub but since I have the tube looks like a sono sub.
    That will work fine, if it's tall enough to get some decent internal volume out of it...
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    It's 4ft. in hight but I wanted to cut it down to 3ft.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    Don't cut it. Leave it at 4 ft.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA wrote:
    It's 4ft. in hight but I wanted to cut it down to 3ft.
    don't cut it until you know what driver you're going to use...
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    Looks like SVS 12.1 plus from mister Grimster74.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA wrote:
    Looks like SVS 12.1 plus from mister Grimster74.
    Good choice. You won't find a better driver for twice the price.

    You'll want to contact SVS then about design recommendations. They won't give you the TS parameters to really go all out on a design. You'll want to try to clone one of their designs. They should give you some ballpark figures to work with...
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    I will contact SVS tomorrow but on the site, this driver is close to the 12.3 plus in the 20-39. I could not find info on the 12.1 on svs's web page. The 20-39 is 16" dia tube and 39" in hight.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited October 2006
    Do a search on Home Theater Forum or AVS Forum for Sonosub. You will find pics of lots of DIY subs and a number using the exact driver and tube you have.

    I would use this port or a couple of its smaller sisters to get the tune you desire.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=268-352
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited October 2006
    You'll probably need to use three 3" ports, just like the PC+ subs do. I don't think a single 4" would have enough port area.
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited October 2006
    No cardboard box recommendations?
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,519
    edited October 2006
    I'm about ready to start a new sub box. The Sonotube sub is too big for my theater and has to sit out in the room, I want to hide my sub.

    The new box will go under the Futon in the back row. I will keep the size the same, roughly 9 cf. Currently I'm running a Tempest 15" in a 24"x36" Sonotube with duel 17" flaired ports. She's tuned to 17Hz. I'll use all the same parts so all I need is a sheet of 3/4" MDF.
    If...
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited October 2006
    Ron, your theater is in the garage right? wouldnt that be ideal for an infinite baffle set up? (i.e., your garage is the box)

    of course, neighbors might be able to hear your garage rattling, who knows
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    OK, so so far the plans are 12.1 SVS driver, sonotube 16" dia. approx. 40" (+)
    base height., 3 3" ports (don't know what the depth of the port tubes should be). Egg crate type open cell foam insulation, mdf top & base, pvc 1-1/2" legs.
    I would like to go with a flush mount plate amp from bash but I'm not sure how to mount it on the back of the tube so I will be confident nothing will rattel. I know I will still need wire and some type of sock for the tube and other odds & ends, but all in all I think the plan is coming together well.
    I'm sending the money out for the driver tonight & will choose the amp after I find what will match the driver.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited October 2006
    MSALLA wrote:
    OK, so so far the plans are 12.1 SVS driver, sonotube 16" dia. approx. 40" (+)
    base height., 3 3" ports (don't know what the depth of the port tubes should be). Egg crate type open cell foam insulation, mdf top & base, pvc 1-1/2" legs.
    I would like to go with a flush mount plate amp from bash but I'm not sure how to mount it on the back of the tube so I will be confident nothing will rattel. I know I will still need wire and some type of sock for the tube and other odds & ends, but all in all I think the plan is coming together well.
    I'm sending the money out for the driver tonight & will choose the amp after I find what will match the driver.
    Did you email SVS about port length? that or ask someone around here who has a PC+ to measure the length of theirs...

    don't worry about open cell egg crate. You can just use polyfil, which is cheaper, but may not be as easy to attach to the walls.

    forget flush mounting the plate amp. way too much work there, and you comprise the strength of the cylinder. the whole point of using a cylinder is that you don't need bracing. Just build a seperate box for the plate amp to sit in on the floor...

    You'll want to use a ring of plywood somewhere in your ring/plugs to attach the driver to. Plywood gives the screws or t-nuts something to bite onto. MDF doesn't take screws all that well, especially if you have to remove the driver at some point.

    follow this guys assembly. it really shows step by step instructions on building a sonosub. (there are three different projects at the top of the page).

    http://www.io.com/~patman/sunosub.html
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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