HiFi-Tuning Fuses

headrott

treitz3 wrote: »

Anybody tried these yet?

http://www.audio-magic.com/Prod-NanoFuse.html



Specifically talking about the SUPER Fuse (Nano-Liquid)

Tom

Don't have the "super fuse", but I have one of the ones you have pictured in my DAC. It was on clearance for $40.00 so I thought what the hay! I had a Hi-Fi Tuning silver fuse in it prior to the audio magic fuse. IMO, the Audio Magic fuse is more refined sounding and has better detail than the Hi-Fi tuning silver fuse. Of course, the differences are small but noticable. I would interested in hearing what the "super fuse" sounds like. Since it's a ceramic fuse, I would think it would sound even more refined and detailed.

I also have an Audio Magic XLR digital cable (the "Illusion") and it has a HUGE soundstage. Audio Magic makes some good stuff (from the experiences I've had anyway).

Moose68Bash

Thanks, guys, for all your comments.

What have I learned:

1. Sounds like there is enough in the way of good experiences out there that buying the HiFi Tuning Supremes is not just an experiment.

2. I should have done a better job of searching the forum, and I'm not surprised that DarqueKnight has already posted a lot of work on this topic.

3. There is yet another "carrot" dangling down the "rabbit hole." I hesitate to ask, but what is a "WA quantum fuse chip?" :eek:

DON73

Next comes Hi Fi circuit breakers at my home's service panel and Hi Fi power cable from my electric meter.......how about HI FI quality electric meters. Bottomless holes with questionable minute audible results.
I'll spend my extra cash on some really great sounding music and spend my extra time kicking back and listening

DarqueKnight

DON73 wrote: »

I'll spend my extra cash on some really great sounding music and spend my extra time kicking back and listening

Do you feel better now that we know what you are doing with your extra cash? You seem starved for attention.

You should learn to be as frugal with your time as you are with your cash. The subject of this tread was audio grade fuses, not what everyone is doing with their extra cash. If you did not have anything constructive to add, pro or con, your time would have best been spent listening to your music.

Make sense?

Systems

Moose68Bash wrote: »

Thanks, guys, for all your comments.

What have I learned:

1. Sounds like there is enough in the way of good experiences out there that buying the HiFi Tuning Supremes is not just an experiment.

2. I should have done a better job of searching the forum, and I'm not surprised that DarqueKnight has already posted a lot of work on this topic.

3. There is yet another "carrot" dangling down the "rabbit hole." I hesitate to ask, but what is a "WA quantum fuse chip?" :eek:

Hey Phil,
That is alot of money for a fuse (HiFi premiums).
Consider trying some of the other ones first, just to gather some thoughts.
I have been pleased with the Furutech and Isoclean fuses, and they are alot cheaper.

If you want to pm me, I can show you a good deal on the gold HiFi's from an authorized dealer (friend of mine).

janmike

Love it. Well said.

DarqueKnight wrote: »

Do you feel better now that we know what you are doing with your extra cash? You seem starved for attention.

You should learn to be as frugal with your time as you are with your cash. The subject of this tread was audio grade fuses, not what everyone is doing with their extra cash. If you did not have anything constructive to add, pro or con, your time would have best been spent listening to your music.

Make sense?

DON73

DarqueKnight wrote: »

Do you feel better now that we know what you are doing with your extra cash? You seem starved for attention.

You should learn to be as frugal with your time as you are with your cash. The subject of this tread was audio grade fuses, not what everyone is doing with their extra cash. If you did not have anything constructive to add, pro or con, your time would have best been spent listening to your music.

Make sense?

Really? You self appointed forum moderators should allow for a sense of humor now and then. Why do you think I'm starved for attention? That coming from someone with such a pretentious name as Darque Knight? Get over yourself DQ I have.:loneranger: Why did you even feel the need to reply when all you contributed were negative condescending comments toward me. OP's very well written post was an interesting read and I apologize to him if he was offended by my post. You DQ can ........well can't say that here. KMA

headrott

Moose68Bash wrote: »

Thanks, guys, for all your comments.

What have I learned:

1. Sounds like there is enough in the way of good experiences out there that buying the HiFi Tuning Supremes is not just an experiment.

2. I should have done a better job of searching the forum, and I'm not surprised that DarqueKnight has already posted a lot of work on this topic.

3. There is yet another "carrot" dangling down the "rabbit hole." I hesitate to ask, but what is a "WA quantum fuse chip?" :eek:

The WA quantum chips are little (or bigger depending on what the chip is "tuned" to) restickable "chips" that are stated to reduce noise at the quantum level (where apparently most cable nonbelievers can't or refuse to hear or see). They make chips for almost every piece of equipment (speakers, amps, pre-amps, DACs, cables (power, digital, analog, etc)) and specific gear parts (i.e. fuses, rectifiers, etc.)) that you put onto the piece of equipment to gain the reduced vibration, noise, etc. to gain better transparency, imaging, detail, etc. I hope I described the chips well enough. You can find them at places like VH Audio and thecableco.com as well as a few others.

Moose68Bash

headrott wrote: »

The WA quantum chips are little (or bigger depending on what the chip is "tuned" to) restickable "chips" that are stated to reduce noise at the quantum level (where apparently most cable nonbelievers can't or refuse to hear or see). They make chips for almost every piece of equipment (speakers, amps, pre-amps, DACs, cables (power, digital, analog, etc)) and specific gear parts (i.e. fuses, rectifiers, etc.)) that you put onto the piece of equipment to gain the reduced vibration, noise, etc. to gain better transparency, imaging, detail, etc. I hope I described the chips well enough. You can find them at places like VH Audio and thecableco.com as well as a few others.

headrott,

Thanks for the description and information about sources.

I'll check into "WA quantum chips" from the sources to which you referred me.

treitz3

Just an FYI, Hi-Fi tuning fuses are having a closeout sale over at Music Direct. 1/2 off. The link can be seen below. No affiliation.

http://www.musicdirect.com/c-773-hi-fi-tuning-closeouts.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=04-19-13&utm_content=&utm_campaign=soundbytes

Tom

Nounours18200

Have you tried the AHP fuses ? We have compared them to the HiFi Tunning fuses, and found them better than the HifiTunning ones...

Maybe those laready having HiFitunning fuses should ompare in order to confirm or disagree...

headrott

Nounours18200 wrote: »

Have you tried the AHP fuses ? We have compared them to the HiFi Tunning fuses, and found them better than the HifiTunning ones...

Maybe those laready having HiFitunning fuses should ompare in order to confirm or disagree...

I have not heard of these fuses so thank you for the reference. What types/brands of equipment have you compared them in? HiFi Tuning fuses have faired very well in my experience, but as I stated have not heard the AHP fuses. What benefits did you find from the AHP vurses HiFi Tining fuses (i.e soundstage, imaging, tone, detail, frequency response, etc.?). Thanks for your time.

Nounours18200

The AHP fuses have been compared in the following system :
-Source: KRELL MD-10R
-DAC: custom DIY
-Preamp: JADIS JP80MC 20th Anniversay Ediiton with a lot of upgrades
-Amp: KRELL KSA-50 mkII and MARK LEVINSON ML 20.6
-Speakers: APOGEE DIVA
-Cable: Siltech

The AHP fuses appeared to be superior to the HiFi Tuning fuses, BUT you have to be aware that HiFi Tuning has 3 different types of fuses:
-the first model
-the Ultimate
-the Supreme (the latest one)
and the AHP have been compared with the first model of HiFiTuning, and a friend of us has tested this week the latest Supreme model in a (even better) high end system, and his verdict is that the HiFiTuning Reference model ar ethe best ones.

I should order a few Supreme fuses to perform my own tests on my own system (a good one too) because based on my friend test, the AHP are better than the first Hifi Tuning model but probably a lower performer than the matest HifiTuning Supreme model.

Hope this helps, and I am still interested by your feedback

DarqueKnight

Nounours18200 wrote: »

The AHP fuses appeared to be superior to the HiFi Tuning fuses, BUT you have to be aware that HiFi Tuning has 3 different types of fuses:
-the first model
-the Ultimate
-the Supreme (the latest one)
and the AHP have been compared with the first model of HiFiTuning, and a friend of us has tested this week the latest Supreme model in a (even better) high end system, and his verdict is that the HiFiTuning Reference model ar ethe best ones.

There have actually been five generations of HiFi Tuning Fuses:

1. Gold first generation.
2. Gold second generation.
3. Silverstar.
4. Ultimate.
5. Supreme.

I wonder what the next generation will be called since it has to top "supreme". "Ultimate" and "supreme" are synonyms, so the next generation will likely be another synonym of "ultimate".

I, and others, found Isoclean fuses to be superior to the first generation HFT Gold fuses. I, and others, found the second generation HFT Gold and subsequent generation HFT fuses to be superior to Isoclean.

I have not tried any other audio grade fuses other than Isoclean and HiFi Tuning.

PS Audio used to sell AHP fuses under their "Critical Link" brand. The consensus on the PS Audio forum of those who compared AHP/Critical Link to 2nd gen or later HiFi Tuning was that HiFi Tuning was better. After all the buzz the HFT fuses were getting, PS Audio dropped the Critical Link fuses.

brgman

DarqueKnight wrote: »

There have actually been five generations of HiFi Tuning Fuses:

1. Gold first generation.
2. Gold second generation.
3. Silverstar.
4. Ultimate.
5. Supreme.

I wonder what the next generation will be called since it has to top "supreme". "Ultimate" and "supreme" are synonyms, so the next generation will likely be another synonym of "ultimate".
.

Platinum I reckon.

headrott

DarqueKnight wrote: »

There have actually been five generations of HiFi Tuning Fuses:

1. Gold first generation.
2. Gold second generation.
3. Silverstar.
4. Ultimate.
5. Supreme.

I wonder what the next generation will be called since it has to top "supreme". "Ultimate" and "supreme" are synonyms, so the next generation will likely be another synonym of "ultimate".

I, and others, found Isoclean fuses to be superior to the first generation HFT Gold fuses. I, and others, found the second generation HFT Gold and subsequent generation HFT fuses to be superior to Isoclean.

I have not tried any other audio grade fuses other than Isoclean and HiFi Tuning.

PS Audio used to sell AHP fuses under their "Critical Link" brand. The consensus on the PS Audio forum of those who compared AHP/Critical Link to 2nd gen or later HiFi Tuning was that HiFi Tuning was better. After all the buzz the HFT fuses were getting, PS Audio dropped the Critical Link fuses.

Ray, I wasn't aware that there were 2 generations of Gold fuses? How can one tell the difference between the two generations?

DarqueKnight

headrott wrote: »

Ray, I wasn't aware that there were 2 generations of Gold fuses? How can one tell the difference between the two generations?

Gold Gen 1 logo had a hollow diode triangle with a line through it. Gold Gen 2 logo, and subsequent generation logos, had a solid diode triangle. Let's hope that they didn't do a "Polk" and started putting Gen 2 parts in Gen 1 casings until all Gen 1 casings were used up.:twisted: One dealer's website has pictures of 3rd Gen Silverstar fuses with the hollow triangle logo, but the Silverstar fuses I bought from them had the solid logo. Perhaps that photo is a preproduction photo or HFT used up the remaining hollow triangle cases with early production Gen 3 fuses.

I doubt if there are any new Gen 1 Golds to be found at dealers. The Gen 2 Golds were discontinued in 2009 have been on closeout for a while.


HiFi Tuning Gold Gen 1


HiFi Tuning Gold Gen 2

headrott

Thanks Ray. I will need to check the gold fuses I have in my VK-200 and Theta Jade transport to see which Generation I have. I believe it was Gen 2.

Nounours18200

PS Audio used to sell AHP fuses under their "Critical Link" brand. The consensus on the PS Audio forum of those who compared AHP/Critical Link to 2nd gen or later HiFi Tuning was that HiFi Tuning was better. After all the buzz the HFT fuses were getting, PS Audio dropped the Critical Link fuses.

I will test the latest generation of HiFiTuning "Supreme" fuses in the near future, on various device: DAC, preamp and amp... I will let you know the results !...

BlueFox

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