Richard Gray 1200S Power Conditioner

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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited September 2006
    Thanks for the help. I like to keep an eye on the local market for stuff like this. I found my cd player a 5 minute drive away from me.

    Mike
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited September 2006
    I can't comment on the RG or PC Audio gear because I never gave them a try. But I can comment on Equitech Balanced Power units because I do own one. The founder of Equitech has the patent on the whole balanced power technology. It's too technical for me but I can say that it does work & works damn good. I won't run any of my gear without one. I wouldn't hesitate on trying any of these type of products. Don't forget about Shunyata products, they receive a lot of high marks also.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2006
    Ok. This may be an embarrasingly stupid question but what the heck...Which components are analog and which are the digital? I am supposed to separate the two. I am guessing the amps are analog....is there anything else?
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,536
    edited September 2006
    Amp, two channel preamp, turntable=analog
    CD, DVD, Audio/Video receiver or preamp/processor (anything with digital to analog conversion capability)=digital
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2006
    Thanks. TV is digital too, right? My 1200s is kinda one sided. I only have my Big amp and my two mono blocks for analog stuff.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2006
    I just ordered a PS Audio UPC-200 to replace my $40 Tripplite. Hope it works.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,536
    edited September 2006
    Thanks. TV is digital too, right? My 1200s is kinda one sided. I only have my Big amp and my two mono blocks for analog stuff.

    The TV would normally go on a separate zone in the power conditioner from the other gear, but if you only have the choice of digital/analog, I'd put it with the analog side because of the relatively high current draw from the TV and possible interference with the digital equipment.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2006
    Emlyn wrote:
    The TV would normally go on a separate zone in the power conditioner from the other gear, but if you only have the choice of digital/analog, I'd put it with the analog side because of the relatively high current draw from the TV and possible interference with the digital equipment.

    Thanks. I'll try that.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2006
    That worked nicely. The PQ looks even better with the TV hanging out with the analog crowd.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited September 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    I just ordered a PS Audio UPC-200 to replace my $40 Tripplite. Hope it works.

    What kind timeframe are we looking at. Be sure to keep us posted. I apologize to Darla if we kind of hijacked.

    Mike
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2006
    What kind timeframe are we looking at. Be sure to keep us posted. I apologize to Darla if we kind of hijacked.

    Mike
    No apologies necessary. Please carry on:p
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2006
    What kind timeframe are we looking at. Be sure to keep us posted. Mike

    It's gonna be the middle of next week. The item is shipping from the wrong (i.e., west) coast.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    Ok. Like I said, I did not order the Premier because I just felt it was a little shaky science until proven right now BUT I did order a pair of the DUET Power Centers one of which I received today. I figured it was more of a budget approach to hearing this nano whatchamacallit technology's effect on my rig..

    So anyhoo.... I plug in my Earthquake Cinenova Amp ( The Duet is non-current limiting) , plugged in my Charo acoustic guitar cd and let her rip. Let me just say..... Oh My Goodness!:eek: was I floored at the difference.:D I want 100 of these things! I could not freakin' believe my ears at how much better my system sounded. Everything was just so much more 3 dimensional and the sound just seemed to fill the room. Mind you , my sytem sounds pretty damn good but Jeez! What an improvement.

    I have not tried the video quality yet but that is next. The Richard Gray is now officially on Ebay. PS Audio also offers a Quintet which is a 5 outlet version. I am still going to do some critical listening and film viewing but for $300.00 so far this has been one of the best things Introduce in my system. I believe that they are $400.00 now though as the introductory offer is over.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited October 2006
    Again, I would suggest looking at the Shunyata Hydra series. The Guardian series may be on par, as I have noticed a difference with the Guardian 4, but I know the Hydra series is a solid unit.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    okiepolkie wrote:
    Again, I would suggest looking at the Shunyata Hydra series. The Guardian series may be on par, as I have noticed a difference with the Guardian 4, but I know the Hydra series is a solid unit.

    How much do those go for, Olkie?
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    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited October 2006
    Take a look at www.musicdirect.com for Shunyata's only authorized internet distributor. Just remember that each one needs its own power cable to function.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    Ok. Like I said, I did not order the Premier because I just felt it was a little shaky science until proven right now BUT I did order a pair of the DUET Power Centers one of which I received today. I figured it was more of a budget approach to hearing this nano whatchamacallit technology's effect on my rig..

    So anyhoo.... I plug in my Earthquake Cinenova Amp ( The Duet is non-current limiting) , plugged in my Charo acoustic guitar cd and let her rip. Let me just say..... Oh My Goodness!:eek: was I floored at the difference.:D I want 100 of these things! I could not freakin' believe my ears at how much better my system sounded. Everything was just so much more 3 dimensional and the sound just seemed to fill the room. Mind you , my sytem sounds pretty damn good but Jeez! What an improvement.

    That's great.

    Wing -- are you using the stock power cord with the DUET? If so, consider upgrading the cord for perhaps an improved effect. Try going with a PS Audio Super Power Punch. You can find them on ebay or audiogon for about $33. IMO, it works just as well as the PS Audio Prelude Plus that retails for $300.
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited October 2006
    Congrats on the new piece of the puzzle Darla. Do you or anybody else know why the PSAudio outperforms the RG unit. This little "suge protector outlet" outperforming the bigger RG unit is impressive. Just wondering what one does that the other does not.

    Do you or anybody else know of any link that explains the different types of conditioners and exactly what they do. On the surface one would expect them to be pretty similiar. Just looking for some education.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2006
    Wow, that's quite amazing, wing! I guess I'm definitely looking for something from PSAudio, then.

    Early - Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the UPC-200!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,810
    edited October 2006
    Mike, I believe Paul (PS Audio) has a comparision of his products vs others such as RG on his site.

    AB, I own two UPC-200's. I can't say I noticed a huge difference, but the bass did tighten up a bit and more importantly, no adverse effects while having peace of mind. I'm waiting for reviews/feedback on the new units before I consider them.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,536
    edited October 2006
    Here's an explanatory link about power conditioners, not updated for the new line of power regenerators, but the principle of power regeneration is similar between the old and new lines (the new line is more efficient and lighter in weight). Wingnut4772 is now using a non-regenerating line conditioner/surge protector product that uses a technology unique to PS Audio as far as I know.

    http://www.psaudio.com/articles/power_conditioners.asp

    Here's a product comparison pull-down menu (not updated for the new line though):

    http://www.psaudio.com/articles/power_comparisons.asp
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited October 2006
    Thanks Jessie and Emlyn.

    I read those links but just don't really know how much stock to put in it given that it comes from the manufacturer and all. Not to say they would be dishonest necessarily but it is still marketing.

    I don't know if it is just my perception but sometimes the music sounds cleaner in comparison to other times and thought that I may benefit from some kind of conditioner. However, I don't know much about it.

    What got me interested in the UPC 200 was someone reporting on the AC improvement in their Nuforce ref 8's and wondered if it could improve my ref 9's as well. Given your feedback of the UPC 200 Jesse (an opinion I highly regard) and Darla's feedback regarding this nano technology (seems to be the marketing word lately) makes me want to further investigate. The "reviewer" of the UPC 200 felt that this product did a very good job on said amplifier but I also believe he stated that a balanced conditioner was better. He also states some pretty wacky things following, which makes me take his comments with a grain. I am sure that most of you don't care as you do not have these amps but here is the link anyway.

    http://www.magnancables.com/pages/tweaks/nuforce.html

    Thanks again everybody. Keep the reviews coming.

    Mike
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,810
    edited October 2006
    I don't know if it is just my perception but sometimes the music sounds cleaner in comparison to other times....

    Hell, that happens to all of us even with power conditioners and dedicated lines.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    I don't know why the Duet would sound better than the RGPS but I will say that the Richard Gray seems to be better for video quality so far. Go figure.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    Ok. I may have spoke too soon. As awesome as the PS Audio Duet sounds, I can't seem to keep the dang things from turning off!:mad: I told Paul at PS Audio what was going on at this PS Audio Forum and he told me that the voltage in my house was probably too low and tripping the Duets. Does that sound possible? How the heck does someone fix something like that. I have never had a power issue before - to my knowledge anyhoo.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    Ok. I may have spoke too soon. As awesome as the PS Audio Duet sounds, I can't seem to keep the dang things from turning off!:mad: I told Paul at PS Audio what was going on at this PS Audio Forum and he told me that the voltage in my house was probably too low and tripping the Duets. Does that sound possible? How the heck does someone fix something like that. I have never had a power issue before - to my knowledge anyhoo.

    Paul gave you the wrong answer. Try the UPC-200. There's no microprocessor with voltage control to be concerned about.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Paul gave you the wrong answer. Try the UPC-200. There's no microprocessor with voltage control to be concerned about.

    But I love the way these new things sound...Waaaah!:(
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    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    I'm so impressed with PS Audio power gear that I'm contemplating the purchase of a noise harvester to see if the damn thing actually works. Am I insane?
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    "God grooves with tubes."
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    I think I am going to look at the Shunyata Gaurdians now. The Hydras are out of my budget for sure. Okie, have you had a chance to compare the two?
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,810
    edited October 2006
    Darla, at what voltage are they designed to shut down? Having too low a voltage is just as bad as having too high a voltage, maybe they are doing you a favor if that is what is really going on.
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