Richard Gray 1200S Power Conditioner

wingnut4772

I am thinking about getting THIS 1200S for my system and was wondering if anyone here has one or knows anything about them. I would be replacing my Monster HTS 2500.

Sherardp

looks awesome, however the site doesnt mention switched outlets, filtration of any sort. How does this unit go for. Have you looking into the higher end monster, Panamax, Belkins? Maybe this unit is the ****, no personal experience from myself. Good Luck, if you dont mind me asking why are you getting rid of the 2500?

Not sure if you seen this but here is a review of the product.http://www.audaud.com/audaud/MAY01/EQUIP/equip1MAY01.html

F1nut

Darla, check out the new units from PS Audio. They seem to have come up with something special.

wingnut4772

Sherardp wrote:

looks awesome, however the site doesnt mention switched outlets, filtration of any sort. How does this unit go for. Have you looking into the higher end monster, Panamax, Belkins? Maybe this unit is the ****, no personal experience from myself. Good Luck, if you dont mind me asking why are you getting rid of the 2500?

Not sure if you seen this but here is a review of the product.http://www.audaud.com/audaud/MAY01/EQUIP/equip1MAY01.html

I was interested in the 1200 because it is supposedly non-current limiting and made for a 20 amp circuit ( I have one).

I have no complaints with the 2500 but I am always looking to improve the HT performance and I have read sopme good stuff about these. The 1200 also has 2 more outlets.

The 1200 reatails new for about 2k (list) but it is going for about 1K - 1200 used on the Bay and the Gon.

Just wondering if 13k work of pre and amps might be better served hooked up to this rather than the $300.00 Monster.

Thanks for the review link. I read all I could find and they are all positive with the excepton of Stereophile's. They are actually downright negative.

I will take a look at the PS Audio.

Emlyn

Most of the things I've read about the Richard Gray products have not been all that complimentary. I haven't owned one myself though. Stereophile said this about the 400S:

If you have an early-CD-sound solid-state system and you want to smooth off its rough edges, be my guest. The 400S would probably work well in that context. But if you have anything resembling a carefully set-up, high-resolution system, I suggest you spend your money elsewhere.

I'll second the PS Audio suggestion. The Richard Gray products seem to me to be little more than a surge suppressor in a fancy box. The logo doesn't look very appealing to me.

The new PS Audio line looks promising. I can recommend any of the three older products of theirs I use without hesitation. They replaced Monster HTS5100 units and made a big difference.

faster100

well hurry up so i can get that monster unit from ya I kid i kid

jm1

A few years back, I tried several conditioners. Among them was a Richard Gray unit. In my trials, I could not find any benefit using this product in my system.

I will also suggest you have a look at the new PS Audio Premier Power Plant or the ExactPower EP15A and SP15A combination. If you have problems with noise or voltage fluctuations in your area, one of the above two would be a primary candidate for your next purchase.

As I do not have any problems with voltage flucations or too much line noise, I decided on using a BP-2.5 Ultra with Bybee Quantum Purifiers and a differential noise filter (now the HFC-30). This has made a huge difference in my system. My next acquisition will be a black EP15A to complete the power management portion of my system.

I would suggest trying anything you can get your hands on in your system to determine the net results. What I or others experience may not be what you would experience in your system.

wingnut4772

Ok, I picked up the Richard Gray 1200s AND I got the PS Audio Premier Power Plant . I am going to try them both and see which I prefer. The PS Audio has a 30 day return policy and I can re-sell the RGPC on the GON depending on the winner.

Emlyn

Did you get the $200 off special deal on the PS Audio unit? It's valid for September.

If you have one available, use a PS Audio Statement power cord (current or previous design cord) from the unit to the wall.

wingnut4772

Emlyn wrote:

Did you get the $200 off special deal on the PS Audio unit? It's valid for September.

If you have one available, use a PS Audio Statement power cord (current or previous design cord) from the unit to the wall.

I think that is only from local dealers. I ordered it online but I did not have tp pay tax so it worked out pretty much.

I don't have a PS cord...um...I guess it doesn't come with one...?:o

Emlyn

The stock cords with PS Audio power conditioners are usually generic 14 AWG or 12 AWG cords. Any aftermarket cord will work better than the stock cord. The previous generation Statement cords are still available on the used market for around $200.

Early B.

Kinda tough to beat a great deal like this...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=PSAPRPC1%2E5&product_name=Prelude%20Power%20Cable

madmax

I had the tripplite LCR-2400 power conditioner for quite some time. Never really noticed what it did until I sold it. The sound became somewhat rougher, less smooth. Overall a cheapening of the sound quality. I'm guessing most conditioners are like this. Pretty much you have to get used to it being in line and then if removed it is quite noticeable. I will probably try a Richard Gray unit at some point but as of now I have not so my comments are useless. As a matter of fact I don't even know why I'm writing this...
madmax

wingnut4772

I got it in in and hooked it up last night. So far all I can say is that everything that is reported about the video image is abolutely true. Even my partner commented that the PQ was 'clearer'. My HD images which I thought were terrific before are almost stunning now - and I don't even get my set calibrated until Oct. The jury is still out on the audio side.

okiepolkie

Are you planning to get your set ISF calibrated?

faster100

**** it better make me breakfast for that price.. and if i bought it, id be making my own breakfast anyways If it makes a notable difference that's great!!!!!

But that is alot of cash even if i had it, to throw in a PC...... however now it works out for ya, send that monster this way

Emlyn

wingnut4772 wrote:

I got it in in and hooked it up last night.

Which one?

wingnut4772

okiepolkie wrote:

Are you planning to get your set ISF calibrated?

Yep. Eliab from Avical will be here in Oct.

wingnut4772

Emlyn wrote:

Which one?

Oh Yes:o The Richard Gray. I am considering canceling the PS Audio order. That may be too rich for me for something so new right now. I will see.

jm1

wingnut4772 wrote:

Oh Yes:o The Richard Gray. I am considering canceling the PS Audio order. That may be too rich for me for something so new right now. I will see.

You have 30 days to trial the product. Just the balanced power output capabilities of the unit may provide the same benefits as the RG unit. You also get clean regulated power as well as many other features that should benefit your entire system.

Just some food for thought.

univera

Early B. wrote:

Kinda tough to beat a great deal like this...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=PSAPRPC1%2E5&product_name=Prelude%20Power%20Cable

EB, have you used this cable in particular? I need another high end cable to match up with my other anthem which is just the stock version. The Power 3 that came with one amp doesn't have a snug fit, so you have to kind of rig it in place. This one claims to be a tight fit.

Early B.

univera wrote:

EB, have you used this cable in particular? I need another high end cable to match up with my other anthem which is just the stock version. The Power 3 that came with one amp doesn't have a snug fit, so you have to kind of rig it in place. This one claims to be a tight fit.

The PS Audio power cords fit as tight as a virgin's panties. Just buy it.



Oops. No offense to virgins. I should have said, "...as tight as a fat girl in spandex."

F1nut

I second the virgin's panties. Just buy it.

audiobliss

So, has the PSAudio unit unveiled its head yet?

wingnut4772

No. They don't ship until late Oct. After participating and reading the PS Audio forums I think I will wait until some other user feedback comes in on them. I seem to be getting some conflicting info.

audiobliss

Well, that's a bummer. My eye has just been drawn to some new UPC-200's going on a-gon for $238.

Midnite Mick

I have been thinking of the UPC 200 as well. I have read a couple of sources regarding the improvement on the Nuforce ref 8's with the unit. I am wondering if it could offer the ref 9's the same. The cheapest I have seen it up here was 385.00 on CanuckAudioMart.

Mike

audiobliss

Here's one on agon for $295 that will ship to Canada. Here's a modded one for $309 that will ship worldwide.

jm1

wingnut4772 wrote:

No. They don't ship until late Oct. After participating and reading the PS Audio forums I think I will wait until some other user feedback comes in on them. I seem to be getting some conflicting info.

Interesting read; based on prior experience with a P300, actual current draws are somewhat less than you would expect.

There are devices that can measue current draw. This one is rated for 15A. If I recall correctly, this may not work for your amp as it has a 20A plug, but you could look for a 20 to 15A adaptor or build a cheap power cord from parts found at Home Depot. This way you could measure actual values and make an informed decision.

Midnite Mick

audiobliss wrote:

Here's one on agon for $295 that will ship to Canada. Here's a modded one for $309 that will ship worldwide.

Thanks Bliss. I have never bought anything used from the US. I am not sure how bringing it across the boarder works. Not sure if there are similiar fees, etc.?

Mike

audiobliss

Unfortunatley, all I can say is 'ditto'. As I'm sure you have, I've read of a lot of troubles with shipping across the border. But I don't really know how it works.

Good luck with your search, though!