B&W Nautilus 802

F1nut

Too funny!

unc2701

Hey BMD- Mind if I ask the price on them? Not that I'm rolling up there for 'em... I'm just keeping a feel for what the going price is.

mantis

Frank Z wrote:

Gee Dan, you're post makes prefect sense in a completely bass-akward way. :rolleyes:

How am I supposed to know if I like it or not if I don't read it first.

I suggest it because everytime I post and then you post, you have some smart **** comments about whatever I post about. There is an Ignore feature, you can put me on it and avoid me. I wish not to get into a pissing match with you. If you do then lets go on a Im or something and kick each others nuts in ok??Maybe meet somewhere and slug it out. It's old man.

To some it up, I enjoy the B&W N series speakers for just about all kinds of music except heavy metal/ hard rock stuff. I find them to lack there. I have heard them on very good gear and not so good gear and that makes a huge difference. Those speakers are crazy Detailed and maybe thats why Heavy Metal doesn't sound so good. I think they are one of the very best speakers in the world.B&W's N series is in a completely different class then the Lsi's. I'm not trying to bash them, I owned them and actually think they are fantastic speakers for the money. But I know there limitations and N series is out of there reach. It's just the way of things man.

Peace man
Dan

sucks2beme

Many European speakers are a bit sterile. One stereo review I read explained that European homes tend to be constructed differently than ours, with hardwood or tile floors. That's one reason the speaker are designed to be laid back.
I don't know if this true, but the older set I had for a while shure seemed to
follow this trend. The nicer B&W bookshelves also roll off in bass response
quickly. Sub required! Still, I did find a set of beautiful CDM-1's with stands
at an audio shop that they took in on trade. Stupid me, I didn't buy them.
Love them or hate them, they sure look pretty!

zombie boy 2000

ND13 wrote:

Somebody needs to take a remedial math course.;)

That is unless I lost a year somewhere.

You're telling me it's not 2007.... Holy Crap!!! Looks like the landlord, Progressive, electric company, T-Mobile, student loan people, etc. will have to wait a year to cash my checks:p

ohskigod

mantis wrote:

I think they are one of the very best speakers in the world.B&W's N series is in a completely different class then the Lsi's. I'm not trying to bash them, I owned them and actually think they are fantastic speakers for the money. But I know there limitations and N series is out of there reach. It's just the way of things man.

Peace man
Dan

different class aside, I have heard both. I'll keep the LSi's

venomclan

802's, world class. Need the right gear to run them. They are expensive and so must be the gear. Whether that is a strength or weakness depends one one's preference and cash flow.

I beleive it is a moot point comparing Polk again to B&W. Polk has nothing to compete against the N series, not becasue they can't, but because they gave up the 2 channel market a while ago for HT. This has been beaten to death.

Whichever one prefers is fine, at whatever price point they want to. They are both legends and have their place in the market.
Venom

Joey_V

BW802N... great speaker... solid foundation down low, great midrange, soso highs. However, awesome nontheless... especially at used prices. Move to the 802D and we get to a BW speaker that I thoroughly enjoy! Amazing from top to bottom and gets my 2 thumbs, 2 toes up!

As for speakers in its immediate price range, the Wilson Sophia will run toe-to-toe with anything BW has to offer (not including the 801D or 800D)... and those would be something to keep an eye on.

Other speakers, the ML Summits, for me, runs over the 802N but not necessarily the 802D... the tweeter is that good, IMO.

Lastly, if you truly are serious for a $5K speaker, look at Audio Physic speakers like the Virgo or even a used Avanti III.... superb musicality! And lets not forget, the Sonus Faber Cremona (used)... beautiful to look at, stroke... I mean... listen to! :P

organ

Mike,
Cool. You should give them a demo. I like the B&W sound for pretty much everything except metal. Not that they can't do metal like I previously thought. They're just more laid back and I prefer my metal forward and aggressive. The mid range is really something too.

Sounds like you're doing some major upgrades. Keep us posted.

SKsolutions

Rodney King wrote:

Can't we all just get along? :eek:

The answer to that question will be post-dated a year from now and mailed.

screename

I'm a little late to this thread but I'll throw in anyway:

First off I am biased because I own them. 802D's up front with an HTM1D at center and I have moved the previous mains, N802's to surrounds. I was supposed to sell the N802's but they make such great surrounds; oh well.

My DVD-A's and SACD's never sounded soo good. I listen to everything from classical to metal and I really like this setup. The diamonds tweeters, crossover and driver upgrades are a nice improvement to the speakers. It's not that anything was missing before, just that it's better now.

To be honest I moved to B&W's and never really went anywhere else. I don't have anything to compare them to. I liked my Polk setup when I had that too but I knew there was better sound and I was really seduced by the look of these speakers.

I was at a friend's house this weekend and we compared a pair of N804's I had with his 400 dollar ADS speakers. Anyway I think he liked his speakers better in the end, so I know they aren't for everyone.

I am sure there are a number of speakers out there that sound good to their owners in the same price range and to me it's like music; listen to what you like. If we all owned the same **** it would get pretty boring.

I have played Sunfire, Mac, Krell and Halcro through them and they have appreciated every new step.

One great benefit to the B&W stuff, at least as far a N-range is concerned, you don't have to lose money on them. If you buy right you can use them for a year or two and probably be ok.

If you like the sound, own them and if you don't move on. I have to be happy for a while because this habit is getting f'ing expensive......lol.

venomclan

Hi Screename,
802's as surrounds is a serious system. I had demoed some 800D's with Mark Levinson amps and is sounded amazing. My next upgrade is probably some N804's with an HTM1. The D's are out of my price range and since the tweeters cost $2000 a piece, too much for me to replace if broken. I damaged a tweeter on my CDMNT's and it was $100 to replace.

What amps did you end up with for your system and why?
Venom

screename

I'm using 4 channels of a Krell TAS for the mains and the 5th for the center. The Halcro MC50 is bi-amping the surrounds.

I have a set of N804's, N805's on B&W stands and a pair of Nautilus HTM 1's on stands as well. These are all Nautilus not the newer "S" Models.

I am interested in selling some of these but I haven't listed them anywhere yet. I also have an HTM2D that will need to go as well. I would love to see them go to a Polkie but honestly wasn't sure that anyone here would be interested. Drop me an email and we could talk if upgrade time is near.

TroyD

What are your impressions of the N804's for 2ch use??

BDT

screename

They have the super clear B&W sound, and are a nice entry level speaker. Down from that is the 805, but I would reccomend a sub with those. I just dig the sound of them. It's hard to relate in words, but when I am listing to my big system and everything is clicking, the hair on my arm stands up....no ****. I had a buddy over once and we were playing Frampton Comes Alive and the same thing happened to him.
I hope this was helpful.
Brad

mantis

TroyD wrote:

What are your impressions of the N804's for 2ch use??

BDT

Dude they are an amazing speaker. Have you heard them? I would also agree on adding a killer musical sub with them to give them the last word in bottom end detail. Most would be happy with them with no sub, but I would like a sub.

Dan