Internet Explorer 7

MacLeod

Turned on my computer today and my homepage was the Windows website announing the Version 7 download is now available.

For the first time in 10 years, IE has a new look. Its not that bad but will take some getting used to. They finally are using tabs.

I also notice the fonts seem to be bolder.

Anybody else upgraded yet?

janmike

Is this still in beta? I am always leery about beta.

Mazeroth

Firefox for me.

Demiurge

Mazeroth wrote:

Firefox for me.

Ditto. I'll go back to IE when it's better.

MacLeod

I dont know what Beta is. Im kinda ignorant on computer issues.

As for Firefox, I used to use it all the time because IE just had too many pop-ups but Firefox completely deleted ALL my Favorites 2-3 times and I finally switched back to IE. Now that IE has updated their stuff I have virtually no pop-ups so Im sticking with it.

**EDIT**

Yeah, I think its still Beta. But it still works just fine for me.

brettw22

Mac, just keep a copy of your favorites folder somewhere else for problems like that. Release the demon (come back to Firefox).

Kris Siegel

Internet Explorer 7 is still in the Beta stages of development (Beta meaning it's not a final product but more of a work in progress). They recently released Beta 3 (they originally released IE 7 beta 1 about 6 months ago, so this isn't the first time Microsoft has released an IE with different looks).

It has better features and more web standards support for us Web Developers. Unfortunately, it still ignores many web standards so it's still considered a sub-par browser in terms of web development.

A full version should be released in the beginning of 2007

honestaquarian

Unfortunately IE 7 is STILL also using those dreaded Active X controls apparently.Which is why it is not as safe as Firefox and Netscape.It is via the Active X controls(which is basically a rendering engine i believe) that different sites can download things like Spyware and Adware(the cause of pop up windows which are not site related) a growing problem on the www.I have IE 7 Beta 3 myself and everytime i use it and run my various Antspy programs,they find all kinds of stuff.

Kris Siegel

An ActiveX Control isn't exactly a rendering engine. It's a control that has the ability to run like an application within IE. It has very little restrictions so if someone installs an ActiveX control in IE it can do practically anything a regular application or virus can.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I've finally crossed over to the dark side and am using Firefox exclusively at this point. I think it makes my fonts bolder also, but not sure...

Either way, I like it a lot.

Airplay355

Firefox for me too. I'm not a fan of IE or the weird stuff it does. Plus I LOVE the firefox search feature. It highlights what I'm searching for Very hand when I'm searching for credit card numbers or long invoice numbers at work. If I happen to make a typo, there were still be partial matches.

opus

Ok, Ok. I just switched to Firefox because of this thread. It took me several years to figure out IE so that means that Mazeroth, Demi, Brett and you Airplay are responsible for answering all my dumb questions:D

Don't worry the years will just fly by;)

okiepolkie

I just switched too. I'll try it for a while to see how I like it.

Kris Siegel

Switch to Opera instead.

I used to use Firefox exclusively for a while until I found Opera. Not only is Opera faster than Firefox, but it has a ton more features. It has widgets, a better download manager, voice controls, you can change many important preferences just by pressing F12, mouse gestures makes browsing extremely easy and fun, and more. It's got tons of good stuff and Opera is usually the innovator in the browser industry.

I know I sound like a Fanboy, but in interviews with Firefox and Mozilla's developers they've admitted to taking ideas (like tabs) from Opera.

Plus, Opera's Mail client is very fast and efficient as well as it's IRC client and torrent downloader.

markmarc

I never trust anything that Micro$oft puts out until the second edition or major update is rolled out. 10,000 software engineers and their first edition is still nothing better than a final beta. Just my experience running a school network.

MacLeod

Ive never had an issue with IE except about a year ago I was getting a TON of pop-ups and thats when I switched to Firefox. But Firefox kept doing weird things like changing my home page and erasing my bookmarks but the last thing was the worst. It totally erased my ID and started from scratch and when I tried to fix it, it kept locking up. I even tried deleting and unisntalling it and it wouldnt work. Even after I deleted everything with the name Firefox off my computer, it was still locking up my computer somehow. I finally got things back up and running again and since IE has an awesome pop-up blocker, all my issues with it have been resolved and Im sticking with it.

Plus, websites seem to work better with IE.

Demiurge

Kris Siegel wrote:

Switch to Opera instead.

I used to use Firefox exclusively for a while until I found Opera. Not only is Opera faster than Firefox, but it has a ton more features. It has widgets, a better download manager, voice controls, you can change many important preferences just by pressing F12, mouse gestures makes browsing extremely easy and fun, and more. It's got tons of good stuff and Opera is usually the innovator in the browser industry.

I know I sound like a Fanboy, but in interviews with Firefox and Mozilla's developers they've admitted to taking ideas (like tabs) from Opera.

Plus, Opera's Mail client is very fast and efficient as well as it's IRC client and torrent downloader.

Opera is definitely good too, I agree.

MacLeod

Hmmm. I think Ill try Opera out. Ya never know til you try.

**EDIT**

Downloaded Opera. Its very different from IE and is going to take some getting used to.

Anybody know how to or if you can import bookmarks from IE to Opera? I looked thru their Help site and couldnt find anything.

Roy Munson

Kris Siegel wrote:

Switch to Opera instead.

I used to use Firefox exclusively for a while until I found Opera. Not only is Opera faster than Firefox, but it has a ton more features. It has widgets, a better download manager, voice controls, you can change many important preferences just by pressing F12, mouse gestures makes browsing extremely easy and fun, and more. It's got tons of good stuff and Opera is usually the innovator in the browser industry.

I know I sound like a Fanboy, but in interviews with Firefox and Mozilla's developers they've admitted to taking ideas (like tabs) from Opera.

Plus, Opera's Mail client is very fast and efficient as well as it's IRC client and torrent downloader.

I completely concur!

Plus with Opera you don't have to bother with extensions because it all comes built in and to top it off with all of the extras Opera has that Firefox doesn't, it's smaller!

Roy Munson

MacLeod wrote:

Hmmm. I think Ill try Opera out. Ya never know til you try.

**EDIT**

Downloaded Opera. Its very different from IE and is going to take some getting used to.

Anybody know how to or if you can import bookmarks from IE to Opera? I looked thru their Help site and couldnt find anything.

Go to..file>import and export>import Internet Explorer favorites.

bobman1235

Roy Munson wrote:

I completely concur!

Plus with Opera you don't have to bother with extensions because it all comes built in and to top it off with all of the extras Opera has that Firefox doesn't, it's smaller!

There's HUNDREDS of extensions for Firefox. It doesn't come with all of them, that's a ridiculous statement.

Roy Munson

I didn't say that Opera came with all of the extensions that are available in Firefox. However, Opera comes with an email client, IRC client, Torrent downloader and much more..plus it's less bloated than Firefox and a smaller download even though it has many features that Firefox doesn't! And you don't have to bother with finding extensions..if that is ridiculous, then so be it!!!

Willow

Am I the only one runnning IE? shoot maybe I should look into another option.
Is is tough to swap over from IE to FF?

Roy Munson

Just download it and try it.

There is always a learning curve to getting used to a new browser but I think it's worth it. Firefox is a good stand alone browser but I think Opera is better. YMMV!

Disc Jockey

I also happen to think Opera is the best browser going right now. I have used it for years and it has always had more features and performance than IE or FF. Tried FF for a while and just didn't like it as much as Opera. I have to use IE at work but I am always much happier browsing from home.

Used to be that you had to pay for Opera or put up with ads for the free version but that changed a couple of versions ago, so no real reason not to give it a try. You will need to keep IE though cause there are some sites that are just hostile to anything not IE.

DJ

janmike

Willow wrote:

Am I the only one runnning IE? shoot maybe I should look into another option.
Is is tough to swap over from IE to FF?

No I am still running IE. Tried Opera a year ago and then switched back. Maybe I'll give FF a try.

MacLeod

Roy Munson wrote:

Go to..file>import and export>import Internet Explorer favorites.

Thanks for the tip.

One thing Ive found I really like on Opera, the skins you can download. That was my first **** about it was the toolbar and how it looked. After some digging around I found all the skins you can download. Very cool!

One thing I dont like is the Alt / S function doesnt work on Opera so I have to actually scroll down and hit the 'submit' button. Thats gonna take some getting used to.

MacLeod

Well I think Ill just stick with IE.

I just like the layout better and its easier to navigate around with. As for all the nifty features of Opera and Firefox, for my measly needs, IE has everything I want.

1996blackmax

I prefer Netscape, no pop-ups and easy to use.....

bobman1235

They still make Netscape?

1996blackmax

Yep....