Plasma vs LCD

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  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited July 2006
    mulveling wrote:
    He didn't say plasma sucked. He said it was the closest thing to CRT, which is good :cool:

    you didn't see the original message, it was edited and I'm sure people are appreciative.

    I understand why people like CRT HD. It is a great picture. But for alot of people who want larger screens (50"+), its irrelevant to the conversation. Everyone has their personal preferences and the comments following his were just indicative of the general thought that it is useless to post condescending remarks about someone's choice that doesn't agree with yours. Everyone has different priorities so while one technology is perfect for one, it may be a bad choice for someone else.

    For me personally a top priority is viewing angle, which rules out alot of the plasma competition.
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited July 2006
    PhantomOG wrote:
    you didn't see the original message, it was edited and I'm sure people are appreciative.
    yeah, again sorry about that:)


    PhantomOG wrote:
    For me personally a top priority is viewing angle, which rules out alot of the plasma competition.

    Exactly another reason why I don't like LCD. When you look at an angle, all of your blacks on the screen turn into a blueish color from the backlight. It is harder to notice with more expensive models though...

    samsung has a good idea with their slim design tubes, but they still don't have the picture quality of a sony tube...

    If I was to buy a tv above 34", it would either be the sony sxrd (xbr) or the Pioneer plasma (I'm not sure about the new model since CC doesn't carry them anymore, but the old pioneer was a beauty).
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
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  • Maestro
    Maestro Posts: 92
    edited July 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    I don't know how much the warranty was, but $2400 seems a bit steep for only a 40" display.......(and technically, you can't say "Priceless" after you've just typed out the price)... :D


    The total price includes the warranty, tax, shipping, etc. So, the 40" is much less than $2,400.00, genius.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2006
    Lose the attitude newbie......

    You can get a 42" plasma for $1200ish, so if you spent almost double after tax, shipping, warranty, extras etc, then you got ripped IMO. Congrats on your purchase.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited July 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    If I was to buy a tv above 34", it would either be the sony sxrd (xbr) or the Pioneer plasma (I'm not sure about the new model since CC doesn't carry them anymore, but the old pioneer was a beauty).

    Both of the above are excellent choices. Not sure the new Pioneer is out yet, but they are fantastic plasmas.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
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  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited July 2006
    Holydoc wrote:
    Not sure the new Pioneer is out yet, but they are fantastic plasmas.

    The new non-Elite 50" and below are out. I'm still waiting to see the 60" in person, I think that will be the one that I buy.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2006
    I too have a Sony Trinitron 32" and a Panasonic 40" Plasma. I think the HD on the Plasma is just breath taking, the blacks are BLACK. And BTW I don't like watching the Sony any longer.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited July 2006
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    I too have a Sony Trinitron 32" and a Panasonic 40" Plasma. I think the HD on the Plasma is just breath taking, the blacks are BLACK. And BTW I don't like watching the Sony any longer.

    I asked holydoc the same question but never got a reply, is your 32" sony a HD set?
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited July 2006
    Is DLP an option over the LCD? I like DLP, very nice blacks
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    I asked holydoc the same question but never got a reply, is your 32" Sony a HD set?

    I don't buy a TV to often so mine is a old Trinitron non XRD analog and compare using S-Video inputs.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited July 2006
    Sherardp wrote:
    Is DLP an option over the LCD? I like DLP, very nice blacks

    well, here is my ranking on tvs(in HD)...

    1. CRT-
    Pros: best viewing angle, best contrast ratio, most natural picture.
    Cons: very heavy, very big compared to newer tech, no bigger than 34 HD, being phased out (damn you sony:mad: )

    2. plasmas-
    Pros:viewing angle of tubes, closest contrast to tubes, can be hung on the wall.
    Cons: heavier than lcds, smallest plasma is 37", questions about plasmas life-expectancy.

    3.SXRD-
    pros- big improvement in contrast over LCD, less of a screen door effect.
    cons- viewing angle, not able to do true 1080P (yet), still need to pay for that damn bulb.

    4. CRT Projection-
    Pros: same as tube except can go above 34"
    Cons: same as tube except the viewing angle is terrible, and get the automatic convergance;)
    4. DLP-
    Pros- slim and light, better contrast than lcds, less screen door effect. viewing angle better than crt projections.
    Cons- color wheel( I think the new samsungs don't have color wheels but I'm not sure). rainbow effect which I never seen before but..:) pay for new bulb

    5.LCD-
    Pros- very light, hang up on the wall, vibrant colors, higher resolution then most tubes and plasmas
    Cons: bad contrast, less than impressive viewing angle.
    6.LCD projection-
    Pros: slim design, more rich colors like lcd
    Cons: screen door effect, screen door effect, bad contrast, viewing angle like the dlp and sxrd. have to pay for new bulb just like dlp

    ok, done.
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
    Gamertag: kovster27
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited July 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    I asked holydoc the same question but never got a reply, is your 32" sony a HD set?

    Eeek! I had missed your question. Sorry.

    The CRT TV is the Sony FD Trinitron Wega set. It's native resolution is only 480i. Here is a link to it if you need more information (and I happen to miss the question...hehe).

    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?CategoryName=tv_27to32TVs&ProductSKU=KD32FS170&TabName=specs&var2=
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    well, here is my ranking on tvs(in HD)...


    3.SXRD-
    pros- big improvement in contrast over LCD, less of a screen door effect.
    cons- viewing angle, not able to do true 1080P (yet), still need to pay for that damn bulb.

    ...

    ok, done.
    Sorry, not true. Brillian has a 65" LCoS that does 1080p.
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited July 2006
    wallstreet wrote:
    Sorry, not true. Brillian has a 65" LCoS that does 1080p.

    sorry, I'm only familiar with the sony xbr sxrd. but wait, LCos is a different technology from sxrd, right
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
    Gamertag: kovster27
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    sorry, I'm only familiar with the sony xbr sxrd. but wait, LCos is a different technology from sxrd, right
    Wrong, they're the same thing. Here's a link, http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=5&article_id=1335
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