Advice wanted...

Holydoc

unc2701 wrote:

Hmmm... ok, I'm not seeing the option to completely kill the power to the mains (some have it, some dont'), but you'll be fine running the Denon as a pre.

You probably won't even have to rebalance the speakers- the Outlaw's channels will be matched and all the adjustments you've done will be reflected on the signal levels on the preouts. You might have to tweak around with your sub, but that's it. Plug & play, dude. (Just don't power on until you're done with the plugging part).

This was not true for my Onkyo. I had to recalibrate everything after attaching the amp.

unc2701

Holydoc wrote:

This was not true for my Onkyo. I had to recalibrate everything after attaching the amp.

Weird... were there big differences? If you swap channels on the amp does it need recalibration? Every channel on that outlaw should have the same gain, esp straight from the factory... Unless the onk does calibration on both the preamp and power amp sides?

Holydoc

unc2701 wrote:

Weird... were there big differences? If you swap channels on the amp does it need recalibration? Every channel on that outlaw should have the same gain, esp straight from the factory... Unless the onk does calibration on both the preamp and power amp sides?

Big differences is a matter of opinion. All I can state is that my fronts and center were calibrated at 0db on the Onkyo and had to be recalibrated at +1db, 0db, +2db respectively. I spoke with Outlaw about this and the concensus was that it may take more power to get signal to the external amp than it did to the Onkyo's internal. This amount of power difference could be causing the increase in calibration mods.

SuperDave

I still don't think 125wpc will get you that much more than your receiver is doing. Go for 200 wpc. Now or later.

Grimster74

SuperDave wrote:

I still don't think 125wpc will get you much that more than your receiver is doing. Go for 200 wpc. Now or later.

I've been posting on some other forums also and I'm beginning to see alot of this comment above. Let me try and explain a little more in depth. What I'm hoping to acheive is a better, more open sound stage. I would like to take some of the stress off of the amplifier side of the receiver to allow for better processing power instead of trying to power the speakers at the listening level I usually watch movies at which is pretty loud. Sometime down the road I'd like to try and go to a full LSi H/T setup which then I would already have a 4ohm stable amplifier, which would be the next question of would 190x7 be sufficient enough to drive the LSi's at a 4ohm load or should I just go ahead and spend the extra $850 bones and get the Outlaw 7200 which is 7x200 at 8ohms and 300x7 at 4 ohms. The reason I'm really interested in the 7125 is it will drop right into my a/v cabinet whereas if I went with the 7200, I may have to build another a/v cabinet to prevent components from being stacked on top of one another.

cfrizz

If you are planning on going to an all LSI system in the future, then it just makes good sense to get the 7200 now & be done with it. Once you get them, you will need a more open soundstage & more power! Otherwise you will be just repeating this whole process again when you do get the LSI's.

I'm a big believer in doing it right the first time around.