Power Cords Again...

Grimster74
Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
I've been reading threads about power cords on the Polk Forum here lately trying to decide if I would benefit from the upgrade. I'm thinking about replacing all my existing power cords with Signal Cable power cords and was wondering if anyone else has done the same? If so, did you really notice a difference or is it just in one's head that it sounds better?:confused:
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited May 2006
    Just buy one cord and try it out for yourself. If you like it, buy more.

    /thread
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited May 2006
    You can DIY the signal cable pretty easy, it may not look as pretty, but if you like that sort of thing it might save you some cash.

    this is the cable used in the signal cable cord. Home Depot and Lowes also sell it by the foot. I believe Home Depot is cheaper though. You can buy the connectors/plugs from PE. Or Home Depot carries the Pass & Seymour 5266-X AC plug for 5 bucks or so. Neither HD or lowes carries any IEC connectors though.
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2006
    good link, :)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,983
    edited May 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    Just buy one cord and try it out for yourself. If you like it, buy more.

    /thread
    Good advice.Have had Signals power cords and while the
    improvement was subtle,was there none the less.Have had better
    results with Aural thrills power cords,very noticeable.
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    I think the benifit comes from better sheilding than stock cords. Better sheilding means less interference from outside rf signals.

    Build quality gives a good feel whenever you deal with them.

    Mine are all steel braided 10g wire, they look great and I do not hear any noise in my system.
    Skynut
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    edited May 2006
    Look at the wall outlet first. Dedicated outlets for your system will keep the system working at it's best. Sharing a power circuit with anything with a motor will cause havoc with the system. PC power supplies can cause some odd stuff too.
    Many here would disagree with the benifits of the cord, but I doubt anyone
    would have a problem with better source of power. Then if you decide to try the cord, you can be sure that it can work up to it's potential.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited May 2006
    Sucks2beme, I have dual, dedicated, 20amp outlets for my equipment. One is for the a/v equipment, one is for the SVS subwoofer.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2006
    Grimster74 wrote:
    I've been reading threads about power cords on the Polk Forum here lately trying to decide if I would benefit from the upgrade. I'm thinking about replacing all my existing power cords with Signal Cable power cords and was wondering if anyone else has done the same? If so, did you really notice a difference or is it just in one's head that it sounds better?:confused:

    In my own personal experience, power cord changes were far more subtle than interconnect or speaker wire changes...just an FYI.

    Signal Cable would be a great place to start; sometime this year I'm gonna have them build all of my power cables to custom length.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    In my own personal experience, power cord changes were far more subtle than interconnect or speaker wire changes...just an FYI.

    Signal Cable would be a great place to start; sometime this year I'm gonna have them build all of my power cables to custom length.


    I plan to get custom length cables made someday also.
    For my system that means about 7+ cables so I need to wait till I have no more imediate system upgrades to do.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    edited May 2006
    Grimster74 wrote:
    Sucks2beme, I have dual, dedicated, 20amp outlets for my equipment. One is for the a/v equipment, one is for the SVS subwoofer.
    Outstanding!
    I've been busy changing everything but the power cords.
    I'd say you were a perfect candidate for a power cord upgrade. I'm sorry I don't have any experience there, but please keep us updated on your results.
    I think too many people have tired them without the proper power feeds, and have had so so results.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,339
    edited May 2006
    I've had great experience with PS Audio Power cords. For small power components (CDPS, preamps) use the preludes. For amps and power centers use the Statements. also PS Audio is running a great slae on Audio advisor. You can get Preludes for about $69. The quality and build of these cables is impressive.
    Carl

  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited May 2006
    Well, with all my recent purchases from Signal Cable in the last couple of weeks I finally made my last purchase from Frank (what a hell of a nice guy too) yesterday and purchased all my replacement power cords. Should be in sometime next week.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2006
    Frank is a great guy to deal with and builds a solid value product. I use his AES/EBU digital cable.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2006
    Grimster74 wrote:
    I'm thinking about replacing all my existing power cords with Signal Cable power cords and was wondering if anyone else has done the same? If so, did you really notice a difference or is it just in one's head that it sounds better?:confused:

    My first experience with the Signal Cable MagicPower cord is discussed here: Signal Cable MagicPower Cord Review

    I have replaced all (eleven) of my power amp cords with Signal Cable MagicPower cords. I have also replaced the stock power cords of some other components with MagicPower cords:

    2-Channel System: Replaced stock cords on preamp, CD player, turntable preamp, and power amp. I initially tried a Signal Cable Digital Reference power cord on the CD player, but heard no difference or improvement over the stock cord. The MagicPower cord made a noticeable difference, mainly in the bass.

    Home Theater System: Replaced stock cords on DVD player, plasma television, and subwoofer. I initially tried a Signal Cable Digital Reference power cord on the DVD player, but heard no difference or improvement over the stock cord. The MagicPower cord made a noticeable difference, again, mainly in the bass, but also in other areas as discussed in my April 2005 review. There was no improvement seen in the DVD player's picture quality. I would have replaced the power cord of the preamp/processor, but this would have required installing an IEC receptacle, which would have required a very time-consuming disassembly of the pre/pro. Sony crammed a lot of stuff into the TA-E9000ES.

    The MagicPower cord provided a subtle improvement in the plasma television sound quality and no improvement in picture quality from digital sources (DVD or digital cable). There was a very noticeable improvement in analog picture quality. I had to change the jack end of the power cable to a flat type IEC jack in order to fit my television. I also tried the Signal Digital Reference cord with the plasma TV, but, again, noticed no difference or improvement.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2006
    As others have mentioned, you can buy the parts and materials and build the exact same power cables yourself. When I factored in my time and labor, I thought it was more economical for me to buy them from Frank, plus, if I didn't like them, I could send them back for a refund.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited May 2006
    I have about 6 sets of SC Magic Power, and 4 sets of DH Labs power plus. They are comparable with DH Labs has a slight edge on Treble, and a tad tighter on the bass. For all practical purpose, they are both interchangeable from pricing and quality perspective. Here is a review of DH Labs that I found to be interesting:

    http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/frr.pl?rcabl&1136162727&read&3&4&

    btw, from stiffness perspective (pun intended), I like DH Labs power plus better, since it has a clear plastic sleeve and a lot easier to manouver corner walls.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.